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Transcript for May 30, 2020

This show includes the following segments: 

  • Experimental Wheat Varieties Part 2
  • Direct Marketing Beef
  • Cow-Calf Corner
  • Mesonet Weather
  • Market Monitor
  • The Coronavirus Food Assistance Program
  • Food Why


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>>> Good morning, Oklahoma.

I'm Kurtis Hair, and welcome to "SUNUP".

A few weeks ago, Dr. Brett Carver started telling us

about the new experimental wheat varieties

that the OSU wheat breeding program is putting out.

SUNUP's Lyndall Stout takes us back

to Lahoma to continue that conversation.


Experimental Wheat Varieties Part 2

>>> We are continuing our conversation this week

with Dr. Brett Carver at Lahoma

talking all things wheat breeding.

Let's start this week with Doublestop.

We've heard a lot about it over the years.

>>> Yes, and for good reason.

It's a very popular variety now,

and it was popular to begin with

for it's Clearfield package,

that being the herbicide resistance trait

combined with management

to control grassy weeds in Oklahoma.

But it's also popular

because it's just a good variety, agronomically speaking,

and a tremendous variety in the mill.

We really wanna continue

and perpetuate that genetics as much as we can.

Of course, we didn't really

have to try to do that.

It just happened

because the cream just rises to the top

and Doublestop has done that.

We've tried, on countless occasions,

to find a replacement

or just something to continue that lineage with

and it's been difficult to beat that Doublestop lineage

in terms of yield and quality together.

The OK12912C right next to it, I think,

is our best shot.

It took a little while to figure it out.

It took a little while to clean it up.

I don't know if it's visible to the camera,

but one thing that's visible to me

as I look at these two strips side by side

is this is a little bit earlier.

The experimental's a couple days earlier

than the Doublestop.

It's no shorter.

It's a tall variety, but it stands really well.

I just found out that, kind of the hard way,

if you're gonna try to beat Doublestop,

you're gonna have to beat it with Doublestop genetics.

This is 75% of the same parentage as Doublestop,

and that was not really by design.

It just happened that way.

But in terms of quality,

I don't think we're gonna back off one bit

relative to Doublestop.

This will be a gem to use in the mill

and in the bakery.

In fact, I think the bakers are gonna really like it

because the absorption in this variety

is top level.

We have not seen the water absorption

at this level of any of our material,

and that's one characteristic

bakers really like to see is high water absorption.

>>> And then you have one other here

that you're also keeping an eye on for release.

>>> Yes, this is taking the Doublestop lineage

in a different direction.

I talked about, last week,

the Duster Diamond.

It's an experimental that introduced

and brought along a key resistance trait,

that being to barley yellow dwarf virus.

So, we've used that Diamond owner breeding program

quite a bit.

We wanted to bring barley yellow dwarf

resistance into Doublestop.

That's one of the weaknesses that Doublestop has.

So, sure enough, we did.

It worked.

Had a lot of help from the USDA,

the genotyping laboratory in Manhattan, Kansas,

to help us bring that trait along,

the barley yellow dwarf resistance.

So, in doing that, we can go in two directions.

We can keep the Clearfield trait intact,

which we have in other experimentals,

or we can go without the Clearfield trait.

We really have, in this line,

Doublestop that is shorter, as you can tell.

Much shorter and much earlier.

Even earlier than the 12912C

without the Clearfield trait.

This is not the experimental line

that would be commercialized.

We would have to go in,

we already have done this,

and pluck out individual pure lines

that would be candidates for release.

We've identified about eight.

We've ruled out maybe a couple of those already

because of stripe rust this year.

But I think we have something

to look forward to.

>>> This is one group that you're keeping an eye on.

But you're also looking

at some relatives of Gallagher, right?

>>> Oh, yes.

>>> Let's take a look at those.

>>> Great.

>>> For this group, we wanna start off

with a quality conversation, right?

>>> Yes, and that quality conversation

is invariably going to involve Gallagher.

Because anytime you target quality

in a breeding program,

you have to make sure you have

the agronomic framework

that's acceptable to work in.

We started with several backgrounds.

We have to have a background to work in

that farmers are going to accept.

We had Billings.

We had an experimental line that we wanted

to release at the time of Bentley,

but we went with Bentley instead,

called 10130.

And then we had Gallagher.

Of those three backgrounds,

it was the Gallagher background

that ended up producing what we needed

in terms of yield and quality.

I will say this about Gallagher,

and I did not realize it

until we started working on this research.

Gallagher has a certain chromosome in it,

a wheat-rye translocation chromosome.

Basically, it's a combination chromosome

from wheat and rye.

It doesn't exist in a lot of varieties,

but when it does, it tends

to reduce the quality.

In fact to a level that's unacceptable.

What I didn't realize about Gallagher was

that it has such good quality to begin with,

and when you put this translocation in,

it doesn't hurt too much, it compensates.

But this this translocation acts like a cap,

it's kind of like an atmospheric cap,

on thunderstorms,

it suppresses the quality.

So in Gallagher we had all this great quality in it,

but it was being suppressed by this translocation.

We took that translocation out, put this gluten-

what we call on this sign, Bx7,

a gluten protein, and voila,

we have a tremendous quality package.

There is no parallel.

Even Bakers Anne would not come-

would not measure up to the gluten strength

of this particular package.

You know, you get to this point,

there are a lot of choices,

and there are only what, four choices, being shown here.

There's another half a dozen we're looking at.

We really have not decided

which one is going to be the better one to go with.

But I can assure our viewers

that we're going to put the best yield

with this best quality together

to have the package that hopefully

our growers will be able to capitalize on,

not in a commodity based market.

This is going to have to be a contracted market.

Where you access this quality and specifically this quality,

because what you want to do is you want to combine

this grain with some other grain that may not measure up

in terms of bread quality.

I mean this is this is a fixer upper.

This is something we call like a blending wheat,

but it blends something up.

It's like, uh, it's taking something tragic,

which happens sometimes.

2017 was a great year to think-

not so much great-

but it was a very memorable year in terms of

our quality went down.

That was a tragic year.

This puts some of the magic back

takes that tragic out and puts the magic in,

and we're trying to fix a problem

that we know is going to happen again.

And we have this genetics to blend in

with the other varieties out there that

just may not measure up.

of course not from OSU.

>>> Of course not.


Well, fascinating conversation.

Keep us posted as these stories evolve

and as these varieties evolve.

We currently want to stay in the mix.

>>> Yes, will do.

>>> Thanks a lot Dr. Parmer.

>>> Thank you.

>>> And for more in depth conversations

about the OSU experimental lines

be sure to go to

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Cow-Calf Corner

>>> It won't be long until Oklahoma ranchers

will be out in the hay fields

putting up those big round bales

that they plan to feed to the cows

next fall, winter, and spring.

Proper storage of those big round bales

can be a real money saver for cow-calf operations

all across the country.

Folks at the University of Tennessee

a few years ago did an interesting study

on different methods of storing these big round bales

to see which ones gave them the least amount

of weight loss of the bales as they were being stored.

You see, they put up their hay in June

and then reweighed the bales in January

when they started feeding them the hay.

They looked at several different methods

of storing these big round bales.

They looked at either getting them elevated

somehow off the ground.

In their case they used some old tires to set the bales on.

They also looked at covering the bales with a tarp

to keep rain water off the top.

They looked at those bales that had net wrap on them.

They looked bales being stored

completely enclosed in a barn

and compared that to bales that are just stored

out on the ground with no cover whatsoever.

Those that had no cover

and were stored in contact with the ground

they lost 37 percent of the weight

between the time they put the hay up in June

and when they went out to feed it in January.

Now elevating the bales reduced that weight loss

to 29 percent, which was identical

to the loss they had if they left

the hay bales on the ground

but then covered them with a tarp.

That again was 29 percent if they did both.

If had the bales elevated on those old tires

plus had them covered they reduced the weight loss

clear down to eight percent.

That's a substantial difference

from 37 percent clear down to eight percent.

The bales that just had net wrap

and didn't have any help in terms of underneath or above

lost still about 19 percent of their weight loss.

So that gives you and idea.

Here in Oklahoma, we may have slightly lower

annual rainfall than what the folks

in Tennessee experience year to year.

Estimates for Oklahoma conditions

during that same time frame, say June to January,

would indicate that we should expect

about half as much weight loss in our dryer climate

than what they experience.

But still, losing 20% of the hay

that we're putting up every year can be pretty expensive,

if we just put them on the ground

and have no cover whatsoever.

So we might wanna consider this year,

if we have a capability of putting those hay bales

on something like old tires, railroad ties, fence posts.

The folks in Florida even looked at crushed rock

underneath the hay bales to get them away from

that wet soil that causes so much damage

to the hay on the bottom of the bale.

Hey, we look forward to visiting with you next week

on SUNUP's Cow-Calf Corner.


Direct Marketing Beef

>>> With the uncertainty in the beef markets right now,

many producers may have questions

on other options for marketing their cattle.

OSU meat processing specialist, Jake Nelson,

has information on direct marketing

and how that might be the path for many Oklahoma producers.

>>> So, beef producers in Oklahoma,

there's an increased interest in direct marketing beef

to consumers in Oklahoma.

And it's not a new concept,

but it's highly popular right now.

I think what producers need to be aware of

first and foremost is scheduling.

I'm hearing discussions among processors

that they are scheduled out, easily, 12 months.

So, producers need to understand that

the processing sector is kind of bottle necked.

There's not a lot of capacity in scheduling,

and getting your animals into those processors

could be difficult right now.

So, a producer who wants to direct market meat

needs to know, with confidence,

one, who their customer is, where it will be distributed,

how it will be sold, because that has a direct impact

on which category of processor you wanna choose.

Products that come out of a federal establishment

can be sold into commerce anywhere in the world.

Those products which come out of

a state inspected establishment in Oklahoma

can only be sold into commerce

within the boundaries of Oklahoma.

Products out of a custom exempt establishment,

the meat products are prohibited from being sold.

To emphasize, if someone wants to get involved

in direct marketing, they need to at least

have an understanding of who and where

their consumer is, where they're located,

and how they'll get the product to them.

And then, of course, one of the basic fundamentals is

what does my customer want?

What do they wanna buy from me?

I have an animal that produces

upwards of 60 plus different possible beef cuts.

So, there's a lot of questions that people need to consider

when jumping into the direct marketing realm.

There are a few state level permits,

if you will, that need to be secured.

If I'm a beef producer and I have an animal processed

and I'm gonna direct market that meat

and bring it to a location

other than the processing establishment,

then the local or county Health Department

has some authority on how I do that.

And it has to do with temperature control and storage.

And so I would encourage beef producers

who are going to direct market,

is to get in contact with your county Health Department

and ask what local county provisions

or requirements exist for doing that.

If you're going to hold meat and then distribute that

across the state of Oklahoma,

the State Department of Agriculture,

the Oklahoma Department of Agriculture, Food, and Forestry

requires that you obtain a certificate

of warehouse or distribution.

And we can provide a link for that on the website.

We've got information, a fact sheet

on direct marketing in Oklahoma

and the regulations that apply to that.

And then I've got another tech bulletin

about to be published to talk about

what types of conversation a producer and a processor

should have when they schedule for processing.

It's brand new, but we're pushing it through quick.

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Mesonet Weather

>>> Hi, Wes Lee, with your weekly Mesonet weather report.

Wheat producers have had a pretty tough year this season.

Those that were able to dodge the hail

and avoid a light freeze

now have a crop about ready to harvest.

What they need now is drying weather

to lower moisture levels and get combines in the field.

Last week was pretty wet across most of Oklahoma.

This map shows the seven day rainfall

from the middle of the week.

As usual, the East has gotten pounded

by more rain than they can handle.

Amounts were as high as five inches

in Stigler and Webbers Falls.

In the West, where most of the wheat is located,

amounts were more manageable,

ranging from less than half an inch in the Panhandle

to about three inches in Tillman County.

This foliage

percent plant available soil moisture map,

shows there is a lot of drying needing to take place

before harvest can begin.

Of course in the east is fully saturated showing numbers

of 100% or more, but so are many locations in the West.

Including areas in the

central southwest and northwest counties.

Texas and Cimarron counties remain very dry.

The good news for wheat growers

is the forecast for next week looks very dry,

shown here by the brown colors

due to a high pressure heat down expected to build.

Now here's Gary focusing on the panhandle drought.

>>> Thanks Wes and good morning everyone.

Yes we did get a really good drink of water

across the state the 77 County rain, but unfortunately it

wasn't enough to alleviate those

drought conditions that have been building

over the last several months across western Oklahoma.

Let's get to the latest drought monitor map

and see what we have.

So we did see a reduction of brown up into Harper County,

and then down into the Greer county and southwest Oklahoma.

But unfortunately that tongue of moderate drought still

extends from west central Oklahoma,

over into central Oklahoma into

Kingfisher and Logan counties.

And we get to the Western panhandle,

which has been mired in that moderate to severe drought for

the last few months,

dating back to February,

and the pitiful rainfall across western Oklahoma for the

spring tells a story this is the spring rainfall map

through the current period,

we say out across the far western panhandle 1.2 to 1.4,

1.4 inches of rain in Cimarron County,

and that's just simply not going to get rid of

moderate to severe drought.

The springtime deficits,

again as measured by the local Mesonet.

There you see in Blaine and Kingfisher counties,

3.7 to 4.1 inches of deficit,

which is pretty significant for springtime in Oklahoma,

and then from one to three inches across

much of the northwestern corner of the state,

to put those into context

what we would expect for this time of year,

for the spring at least,

percent of normal rainfall map from the mesonet,

across the far western panhandle,

Cimarron County, up into Northwestern Texas county,

we see generally less than 33% of normal,

so less than a third of normal for that timeframe,

and then we see that area in central Oklahoma

as we get into Blaine and Kingfisher County.

So we're currently going through a little bit of a dry time,

after that good rain of this previous week,

but let's keep in mind that June is also

one of our wettest months of the year,

and hopefully we can get some rain across that

far western ground area.

That's it for this time,

We'll see you next time on the Mesonet weather report.


Market Monitor

>>> I don't think we have to tell you that

this is a pretty busy time of year for crops,

Kim you got your wheat harvest about to start,

you got your summer crops going in the ground,

where are we with prices right now?

>>> Well, if you look at the prices,

let's start with wheat,

you can forward contract northern Oklahoma,

$4 and 41 cents, it's a little less than

that in southern Oklahoma.

Also, but if you'll compare that to say sign up a month ago,

we had that forward contract price at 4.64.

The basis now is a minus 11 it's a little stronger,

but futures prices fell off.

You look at corn 3.05 now, 3.01 a month ago minus 30,

not much change in the basis,

Milo at 2.90, 2.81 a month ago,

so it's slightly higher.

They're just like corn, minus 45 on the day's basis.

Soybeans 7.69 up just a little bit from 7.44 a month ago

and basis stayed at about minus 90 enter that Nov contract,

and cotton price is a penny

or two less at to about 56 cents,

and that's three under the cotton contract harvest price.

>>> It seems like all of the summer crops are remaining steady

or maybe climbing just a little bit

but the price of wheat seems to be declining.

Why is that happening?

>>> I think that's it,

'cause you could look at production around the world,

and now the number one producer of course is China,

but they're neither really an export

or an import a little bit,

but the European Union is the number one producer

at 5.23 billion bushels,

now France and Germany are the major exporters out of there.

I put it in the black saying this because Ukraine,

Kazakhstan, Russia all export out of about the same location

at 4.4 billion bushels.

Russia when you break them out is projected to be 2.8

billion US the number three producer at 1.9.

that's down from the past.

And if you look how much exporters, 'course the Black Sea is

the number one overall exporter,

followed by if you look at individual countries,

Russia number one, European Union number two at 1 billion,

Russia at almost 1.3 billion US,

number three remember you go back five years ago,

we were the number one export, we're now number three.

So what we say is increased production around the world,

lower production the United States,

increased exports by our competitors,

lower exports in the United States, our prices lower.

>>> A lot of the wheat that we have here,

It's going to take a lot of money

to get it to some of those markets.

Is there any hope for higher prices here in Oklahoma?

>>> Well the only hope for higher prices

if we lose production in Black Sea area or European Union.

Now European Union is soft red winter wheat,

they compete with our soft red, not our hard red.

So European Union is not really, it is to,

marginally, but not totally.

We've got transportation, we got

a transportation disadvantage.

We could talk about Canada, they've got

the same problem we do.

So we got a transportation disadvantage.

Another disadvantage we've got is they can

produce it cheaper in Russia, Ukraine, and Kazakhstan.

They've just got the topography and the land to do that.

>>> Just last week, you were saying that the numbers

were changing on prospective harvest numbers for Russia.

Is that going to play into that?

>>> Well, Russia, they lowered it just a little,

but I think the big wild card is Ukraine.

They've got them at a little over a billion bushels.

I read a article this week that said

that they might not produce near that much,

it may be more like 900 million.

Every bushel that comes down in that part of the world

is a potential export bushel we could get.

However, you gotta remember Australia,

they haven't been in the market for three years,

and they've got another 250 million to export.

So we've got an additional competitor,

and that's another reason that our price

just doesn't look very optimistic.

>>> Dr. Kim Anderson, grain marketing specialist

here at Oklahoma State University.


The Coronavirus Food Assistance Program

>>> And here's our Extension Ag policy specialist

Amy Hagerman, who has information

on the Coronavirus Food Assistance Program. 

>>> The Coronavirus Food Assistance Program,

long awaited by our agricultural producers in the state,

is live, it is open for applications.

So producers can make an appointment

with their county FSA office to go in

and put in an application.

Right now, those appointments need

to be made over the phone.

For Ag producers who had a loss during

that window of time when coronavirus

was first really starting to ramp up in the state,

they're gonna be eligible for a payment

based on their exposed inventory at the time,

the inventory that they didn't already have priced,

that they didn't already have risk management set up on.

So the payments will be based strictly

on that unpriced inventory in this window of time.

That means for our producers here in Oklahoma,

it's really gonna be a mixed blessing,

depending on what crop it is or what kind

of livestock that they have.

Losses for the CFAP program are based

on two very specific windows of time.

To be eligible, a crop has to have experienced

more than a 5% loss across this time period,

but how it's calculated is they took

a one-week futures price, or cash price

if futures is unavailable, in January,

that first full week after the January 15th start period.

Then they took the last full week of trading in April,

that week just before Easter.

If there was more than a 5% loss between

the weekly average of the first week

and the weekly average of the second week,

then they're eligible for this program.

What happened for our winter wheat producers in the state

is there was a little bit of a rebound

in futures price there in early April,

meaning if you had gone from the highest point

to the lowest point across that entire stretch

of futures trading, there would have been

more than a 5% loss, but accounting

for that little improvement for prices in April,

it was only about a 2.5% loss,

which is why winter wheat was ineligible

for payments under the CFAP program.

There's $16 billion set aside for Ag producers,

which sounds like a lot of money

until you consider the number of commodities

that are actually in this loss eligible category.

So I would really encourage producers,

the program is open now, make an appointment

in a a really timely manner.

Get in there and make that appointment soon,

because that $16 billion is probably

not going to last all the way out

to August 28th, when this program ends.

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Food Why

>>> Today, I thought I'd share a little bit

of information about vanilla.

Vanilla is native to Mexico and Central America,

but it's also grown in Madagascar, Indonesia, and Tahiti.

These areas all provide the tropical climate

that best suits the growth of the vanilla vine.

And while there are more than 50 species

of vanilla orchid, only three have found their way

into commercial food utilization.

Mexico was the first major producer of vanilla

until the 19th century because vanilla vines

are relatively easy to grow under the right conditions.

Vanilla beans, when they're first picked,

are actually odorless and must be cured

for their characteristic aroma to form.

There are several different curing methods used,

but they all have similarities.

The first step is wilting or killing the beans,

which stops them from growing.

The second step is sweating the beans, which causes

rapid dehydration and slow fermentation to occur.

The third step is low-temperature drying,

which reduces the moisture content

of the beans by about 25%.

The fourth step is conditioning or aging the beans,

which allows for proper flavor development.

Finally, after the beans have been cured,

they're graded and bundled.

It's common for extracts to be made from vanilla beans,

although the beans can also be used

whole or in powdered form.

Vanilla extracts are basically made by crushing the beans,

mixing them with a solution of water and ethanol,

and then removing the residue from the liquid.

So whether it's in a jar of cookies

or a bowl of ice cream, vanilla's flavor

is as popular as it is distinct.

For more information, please visit,

or visit

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>>> And that about does it for us this week.

Remember, you can go to our website,,

and you can also find us on YouTube and social media.

I'm Kurtis Hair, and have a great week, everyone.

Remember, Oklahoma agriculture starts at "SUNUP."

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