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Transcript for March 21, 2020

This show includes the following segments: 

  • 2020 Census Information
  • Alfalfa Update
  • A New Peanut Disease
  • Oklahoma Peanut Crop
  • Cow-Calf Corner
  • Market Monitor
  • Naturally Speaking
  • Food Whys


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>>> Hello everyone, and welcome to SUNUP. I'm Lyndall Stout.

During these unprecedented times,

SUNUP is committed to bringing you information

from Oklahoma State University, as best we can.

But because of the limitations we're all aware of,

many of our segments on the show

will look a little bit different,

including our first interview today with Dr. Larry Sanders,

about the start of the United States Census.


2020 Census Information

Dr. Sanders, thanks for joining us,

the Census is starting amid a national crisis,

what does that all mean moving forward?

>>> The Census is required by the Constitution

to happen every 10 years,

so we are going to have

a constitutionally mandated Census count.

April 1st is Census day.

The leeway that might come about,

because of the COVID-19 virus,

is that they make take more time to do the count.

>>> Let's talk a little more about

that constitutional requirement,

we all have to participate in the Census every 10 years.

>>> That's right, you know, it's very important,

especially for those people in Oklahoma,

that we serve here through the extension service.

It affects funds that go to hospitals, education,

county government, city government,

virtually every part of our lives, such as something

that federal funds get involved with,

so the money that we give through our taxes every year,

as funding that comes back to us,

because of the counted consensus,

so if we have an undercount,

we don't get as much of that money back.

>>> Why is it especially important in a state like Oklahoma?

>>> Well, any state that has

a large, geographic area of rural population,

as does Oklahoma, has an issue

because P.O. boxes and rural routes,

are not getting information from the Census Bureau,

you have to have a residence

with a physical address,

which they don't count under a P.O. box,

or a rural route number.

So those residents out in rural areas

are going to need to go into

a County Extension Office,

or a local library

to let the Census Bureau know

that they have to get information from them,

to be able to be counted.

>>> And with widespread closures right now,

that could be a little bit challenging,

we do want to emphasize that the date

that this all starts again is April 1st,

and there is a window of time this Spring, correct?

>>> That's right, the middle of March, actually,

this week and past week,

is when information started being mailed

to residents around the country,

and if individuals in Oklahoma

haven't received anything within the coming week,

they can pretty well figure

that they need to get to somebody in their county

that's connected with the Census Bureau,

to let them know and if they're not sure who to get to,

they can connect by telephone with the Census Bureau,

an operator can connect them,

and they can get the appropriate contact information

to do that.

>>> Let's talk about people

who might be uncertain about giving this information

in the first place.

It is just staying with the Census Bureau, correct?

>>> That's right, I'm sure

that there are many people out there that have

some hesitancy and what information

they give to the government,

especially folks who might not be citizens

of the United States.

This information is held very tightly

by the Census Bureau,

it is not given to other government agencies.

>>> Dr. Sanders, thanks for your time today,

and I'm sure we will see you again very soon.

And for our link to the website,

just go to

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Alfalfa Updated

>>> There's nothing like doing an interview

six feet away from the person,

but that's what we gotta do

because of the COVID-19,

and as all of that is happening,

so is the growth of alfalfa across the state,

and Alex, where are we with the alfalfa crop right now?

>>> Well, if you fall planted alfalfa,

as you can see, we're already getting some growth.

Of course, temperatures now go a little low,

so the alfalfa may stop growing, but it's going on,

especially if all this moisture,

if the sun comes in next days,

I'm pretty sure that the fall seeded alfalfa

is gonna start to catch and growth.

Now, a common question around those days is,

"Alex, can I spring plant alfalfa?"

The answer is yes,

but the norm here in Oklahoma is fall planting.

And the reason is on my hand.

This is a fall planted alfalfa right now,

and that is how I spring planted alfalfa is right now.

Not in the ground yet, it's a seed.

Because, let's say, spring break is the time

that to start thinking about spring planting.

Now, what's the problem with spring planting

here in Oklahoma?

As you can see, that seed needs to be placed

in the ground and start to grow.

Temperatures gonna start to get warm

and warm in the next days

and weeds, disease and pests are going to catch up.

>>> Whenever it comes to the spring planted seeds

that are on your finger there,

what should producers think about

whenever they want to put them in the ground?

>>> Well, the management to how they're gonna do that,

it's not gonna be much different

as they're doing for fall during the fall.

What they need to keep in mind is,

first, soil testing, right?

Make sure that your pH is good, 6.5 or higher.

If it's not, I recommend lime and wait for the fall.

Lime takes time to react and raise it up the pH.

If pH, P and K, and all the nutrients are okay,

choose a good seed.

Winter harden is three four, Durma's a four six,

and please get a seed that is tough and resistant

to the disease and pests on your area.

Use the E-Pest Alert from the university.

That's a good source where you find out

what are those in our area.

Then I would say incorporate pre-plant herbicides.

So some weeds are not gonna come

and you're gonna give a better chance for the seedling,

and it's crucial, you need to master the seed bed.

It must be very good.

Leveled, firm seed bed,

if you step with your boot,

one third inch down only,

and keep those seeds very shallow in the top soil layer,

for you have a very fast and good emergence

early in the spring.

>>> Switching gears, when it comes to the fall panted alfalfa,

what should producers be thinking of

as far as management of that plant?

>>> As far as fall alfalfa,

keep to the regular management.

As you can see here we are already have a good canopy

so with the canopy is gonna be much easier

and also, I would like to recommend the fact sheet,

Alfalfa Stand Establishment

that really talks about the first year establishment

for fall and spring alfalfa.

>>> And while we're on the subject of alfalfa,

there's actually a survey

going around the state right now that you're a part of.

>>> Yes, yes. Right now we are doing alfalfa management survey

among the producers around the state.

The main idea is to identify the main managements

that's being applied for alfalfa right now

and also learn from the producers,

where are the bottlenecks?

Where are the problems that they are confronting right now

and so we can develop better material.

>>> Well, thank you very much Dr. Alex Rocateli,

and for more information about that,

go to our website,

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A New Peanut Disease

>>> Talking peanuts now,

a devastating peanut disease

is making it's way through Argentina.

Now OSU Extension and the USDA are teaming up,

trying to stop the disease

before it makes it's way to Oklahoma.

>>> Peanut smut is a fungal disease

first discovered in Brazil

and then later reported in Argentina.

Right now, it has taken over

the entire growing region for Argentina

and it's present in every peanut field.

The fungus can be very disruptive.

Sometimes it can devastate the crop

to the point of 50% to 75% yield lost.

>>> The farmers don't know it

because there's no above ground symptoms.

What happens is these spores are very resistant

and they end up in the soil

and they germinate when a peanut plant pegs,

sends down a peg to form a peanut kernel

and that's when they get infected.

You get a pod, it's fairly normal looking,

but when you open it up,

it's full of spores instead of peanut kernels.

And that can occur at various degrees,

so you could have a complete replacement

of the peanut kernel with the black spores,

or just little bits of black spores in there.

>>>  It can contaminate seeds

so if you were to import seed...

>>> Uh, it's not in the United States right now,

it's not been reported here.

We are in the process of

growing the accessions out in the green house.

We do this every year.

We send them to Argentina in late August.

We plant in Argentina, somewhere

in October, November time frame.

>>> It's hard to do research on because

the smut is inside the kernel.

So, I know they've gone down there and tried to evaluate

lines and, boy, it's labor intensive 'cause you gotta crack

every one of them open.

>>> This is our third year of testing.

Some of the accessions that we're testing this year

have been tested for three years and have shown

zero percent incidence of disease.

We have about 30-40 lines that we're looking at,

they were carrying over from year to year.

Out of about five hundred that we've tested so far,

that are showing some significant resistance.

So, it actually made a lot of progress

in a very short period of time.

We're finding this resistance in...

accessions of the germ plasm collection

and those accessions are not ready to cultivate.

You can't grow them for, and be profitable or sustainable.

So what we have to do is get that resistance

from those accessions into peanuts

that can be grown by the producers here

and make them a profit.

And they'll be disease resistant

so that they're not affected by, you know,

an outbreak, if it should occur.

I could not do my work without

my partnership with Oklahoma State.

It's a very productive partnership, it's essential to

the work that I do and it's essential for

the sustainability of the peanut producer in Oklahoma.

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Oklahoma Peanut Crop

>>> So, David, there's still a lot of questions with the

peanut smut disease but, how have peanuts in Oklahoma

just the crop, been in general the past few years?

>>> Our producers' done a pretty good job.

We've had some challenging weather conditions

late start last year.

But, they have a lot of experience,

they do a pretty good job and they,

they have experience handling the disease issues and so,

our quality turned out

a little better than we expected last year.

>>> Well the growing season and harvest for peanuts has

kinda falls like the cotton crop does and,

you know, for cotton there was a lot of issues with that

early freeze that happened and like, I think the first,

first or second week of October,

this past October, how did that impact the peanut crop?

>>> It impacted us probably a little more than normal

because we got a late start planning as well.

So we started planning a little later

and then we ended up with a early freeze.

And what that did was

it really made the growers have to manage

when they dug the peanuts

and our growers, as I mentioned, have a lot of experience

in harvesting around adverse conditions.

They've been growing peanuts many, many years

and they really know how to delay the digging,

if it's cold and when to dig and when not to,

and when to harvest so,

I think that's one reason the quality in this area

was a little better than we expected.

>>> So, you know, in general, we don't, you know,

hear a lot about the peanut growers that are

here in the state but, why is this area

here in Caddo County and

areas kinda surrounding Caddo County,

why is that a good area for growing peanuts?

>>> Uh, two key things right off the bat,

we have sandy and sandy-loam soil,

so with peanuts you wanna be about to,

you know, we're digging them out of the ground,

cleaning the dirt off, harvesting those.

Sandy soil and sandy loam soils are perfect for peanuts.

The other thing is the water supply,

we have the Rush Springs Aquifer,

so we have a good quality water supply

with plenty of water.

Our grower's been irrigating many, many years and so,

it makes it just a ideal environment for peanut production.

Plus, all the experienced growers we have makes it a

key area where processors would look for somebody

that knows how to grow a good quality product.

>>> So producers would probably start to think about

planting pretty soon it's gonna be

couple months down the road,

are there any things that are kinda are

on the minds of producers things they're

that they're kinda concerned with

or you know, looking forward to in this

upcoming growing season at all?

>>> Well the price is always the key thing.

Market price is key and you just don't wanna plant

peanuts without having a

a good price upfront or contract.

And so that's what they're looking at right now to see

what kind of arrangements that can be made

with the buying points to see,

you know, what they can do this year,

what are the varieties that are available,

how's that gonna work.

So, they're looking that over right now.

It's a good crop to rotate with cotton,

we do have a lot of cotton acres in the county now.

And so we've had a few more acres the last couple of years

just because it's a good crop to rotate with cotton.

So that's what they're looking at this year.

>>> All right, thanks, David.

David Nowlin, County Extension Director

right here in Caddo County.

And if you'd like some information on peanut smut,

go to our website,

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Cow-Calf Corner

>>> All the recent news events about the COVID number 19

and the health risks that are involved with humans,

made an impression on me and reminded me

that some of the precautions

that we're being told to use in that situation,

actually are pretty close to some of the things

we've talked about in the past

about trying to reduce the risk

of one of the most dangerous diseases

in beef cattle operation.

And that being neonatal calf the diarrhea,

or what's commonly called calf scours.

We can use a lot of the same principles

that we're being told to utilize everyday,

as ways to decrease the likelihood

of an outbreak of calf diarrhea in our herd.

First of all, we think about the cows

before they're calving, making sure that those cows

are in good body condition,

that they're going to be well nourished,

and giving the most possible amount

of the first milk or colostrum

that has the disease-protecting antibodies

for those baby calves.

Obviously, we'd like to calve in as clean

and dry an area as possible, a well drained area.

If we're feeding hay in our calving area,

I would really suggest that we not just put

hay out on the ground, but confine it to a bale ring,

and move the ring to different areas.

So that we do not have that build-up of muck and mud

and hay where again considerable pathogens can congregate

and be a situation that would make the calves

more vulnerable to those pathogens.

Also, any additions to the herd that we might be thinking

about bringing in during the calving season,

I would really encourage that we isolate them,

quarantine them if you will for about 30 days

to make sure that any diseases that they may have had

coming from the previous owner are exposed.

We have a chance to make sure they're over them

before we actually mix them with our cattle.

If we're working with some calves that are sick,

first of all of course, I'd suggest we visit

with our local large animal veterinarian.

Find out what the pathogen is that's involved

in our situation so the proper treatment can be given.

As we're working with these calves

that do have calf diarrhea,

let's do that as the last part of our chores each day.

So that we've taken care of the healthy cattle first,

and then at the end, that's when we actually perhaps

are feeding those baby calves that have calf diarrhea,

so that any of these pathogens that get on our boots,

on our coveralls, on our gloves, on shovels, on buckets,

those things aren't being taken immediately out

to the healthy cattle.

Just using a few common sense ideas

just like it is in the case of the humans,

a few common sense ideas can help us reduce the risk

of calf diarrhea outbreaks on our farm or ranch this year.

Hey, we look forward to visiting with you again next week

on SUNUP's Cow-Calf Corner.

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Market Monitor

>>> In accordance to the six foot rule,

here we are at Kim Anderson that can tame deacon

And Kim let's just dive into what we talked about last week,

some of the prices for wheat.

What was the take-home message for our producers?

>>> Well I think the take-home message is that prices

have fallen and you know what

you go back to mid-January there were $4 and 77 cent

for forward contract for ours delivered wheat

And this way it give us down $4.15 to $4.18.

I think he good news this week was is that

even though the price is lower the future is very near

10-15 cents but the basis increase.

Now, I think that higher bases,

tells us that the market needs our wheat

and that we can produce a 60 pound test rate wheat

with let's say 12 or better protein

I think that price is gonna recover

and I think the take-home message is

the world's gonna need our wheat and we've got 3 months

to recover out of that lower price.

>>> So what is the price situation whenever it comes to wheat

say over the past 30 days?

>>> Well, if you look at potential reasons

for the lower prices, that we had the egg outlook form.

I think there was some positive information there

you look at 2020 wheat production,

they projected to be 1.84 billion bushels.

And that's down 80 million bushels from last years 1.92.

But the International Grains Council released

world production estimates and they estimated

that we have a record 28.3 billion bushels of crawfish here

compared to 28.1.

But I think that may be a little low.

If you look at what's happening in the Black sea,

Russia is supposed to have a higher production,

Ukraine lower, Kazakhstan higher.

Maybe 150 million bushels additionally

coming out of Black Sea in 2020.

You got Australia that's been in a drought

for the last three years.

I mean there production last year is around

570 million bushels.

Their average is around 990

It's raining there now, they're buying seed,

they're talking about planting finished row

to finished row.

You could get 300, 350 million bushels more wheat

in Australia this year than last year.

So what I'm saying is the IGC may be low,

that 28.3 may not be high enough, may be 28.4

something like that, so there are some reasons.

Now, if you look at the European union,

I read a report this week that Germany's production

may be lower, France's production may be lower,

those are exporting countries, so that's good news.

>>> With all that said, it seems like a larger number overall,

and we have three months until the wheat in the ground

is to be harvested, do you think that the price of wheat

can recover here in Oklahoma?

>>> Oh, I think it can recover.

Another thing you look at is the USDA ten-year price outlook

and they're predicting, and in the AG forum,

they predicted that wheat processed next year

in the US would average $4.90.

Now, Oklahoma is normally 12, 15 cents below that,

so let's use 15, so that would be $4.75 average price

for the next marketing year,

for the 2021 year, and, if you look back over

the last 10 years, nine out of those 10 years,

our price peaked in June, July and August.

That means that our price should be $4.75 or higher

if USDA's right with that $4.90,

and I think they're probably pretty close.

>>> If we don't get those prices to increase,

what are some of the options for us?

>>> Well, I think there's always the storage option.

Producers can also put it in the government loan,

we don't know the 2020 loan rate.

I know the 2019 loan rate was $3.38.

Not much, but that can get you some cash to operate on

to put in the 21 crop or to pay bills

and to generate some cash to live on.

>>> Okay, thank you very much Dr. Kim Anderson,

great marketing specialist here

at Oklahoma State University.

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Naturally Speaking

>>> Shinnery oak occurs in a pretty small part of the country.

It's in western Oklahoma, throughout the Texas panhandle,

and in eastern New Mexico, and it's a low-growing

clonal oak, so it typically stays less than waist tall

and it's an important wildlife plant,

so there's a lot of conservation value,

especially for bob white and wild turkey,

and it produces a very large acorn,

but they usually don't persist very long

into the fall, wildlife and insects consume them,

and then when it leaves

s out later on in the spring,

it has a very irregular, jagged leaf margin.

It's slightly glossy and dark green,

and this plant is highly adaptive to fire.

When it's burned, it comes, re-sprouts rapidly from the root

and within two or three years, the plant is back

to the structure it was before the fire took place.

So, in addition to providing acorns for food,

a lot of birds actually eat the catkins off of these oak,

and in particular they use it for cover,

both for cover from predation but also for thermal cover

to shield them from the midday sun.

A landowner might have an interest in trying to get

shinnery back on the landscape, for the cover it provides

and also for the food resources it provides,

and so we're hoping to be able to provide

some best management practices to landowners

in the future, but right now, we really

are kind of at ground zero.

We really don't know how to grow it,

so last year we started with collecting 100s of acorns,

and we're experimenting with different stratifications

and different light levels to see how we can

best grow these in greenhouses to transplant

them back into the sandy soils.

If a landowner wants to do shinnery restoration,

how can they go about that?

So we're partnering with the Forest Resource Station

in Idabel, through OSU, to learn about acorn germination

and survival, rhizome survival, and then also about

transporting it back into these sandy soils.

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Food Whys

>>> If you enjoy drinking tea, you may be surprised

to find out that depending upon the type,

the tea that you enjoy might not actually

be tea at all.

Tea is the most consumed beverage in the world

after water, and all true tea comes from the leaves

of the plant camellia sinensis.

Other types of tea, such as herbal,

are actually infusions.

Herbal teas can be made from herbs, spices,

seeds, flowers, fruit, or other plant material,

but they typically don't contain any tea leaves.

There are approximately six categories of what are

considered to be true teas.

These are white, yellow, green, oolong, black,

and post-fermented, also known as dark.

The different categories are created by exposing

the tea they used to different processing steps.

These include wilting, in other words,

after picking the leaves, allowing them to wither and dry,

and oxidizing, in other words,

after picking, allowing the leaves to turn brown.

Post-fermented tea is basically green tea

that's been allowed to ferment and age anywhere

from 10 to 15 years.

The highest quality, and most expensive, post-fermented tea

may be aged up to 50 years.

Prior to the Ming dynasty in China, tea was often

pressed into forms such as bricks,

so that it could be easily transported and traded,

and even today, post-fermented tea is still often

pressed into bricks.

So whether it's a hot steaming mug of green tea

in the winter time, or an icy cold glass of herbal tea

in the summer, remember to sit back,

take a sip, and enjoy.

For more information, please visit


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Wishing everyone the best.

We'll see you next time at SUNUP.

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