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Transcript for October 26, 2019

This show includes the following segments: 

  • Nitrogen Needs & Benefits of an N-Rich Strip
  • Mesonet Weather
  • Supplementing Wheat Forage with Silage
  • Cow-Calf Corner
  • The New Farm Bill Decision Tool
  • Market Monitor
  • Food Whys


Nitrogen Needs & Benefits of an N-Rich Strip

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>>> Hello everyone, and welcome to SUNUP.

I'm Lyndall Stout.

We begin today with a reminder about nitrogen applications.

Here's SUNUP's Dave Deken and our precision nutrient

management specialist, Brian Arnell.

>>> With the rain earlier in the week,

there are a lot of producers out in the feel,

and Brian, they need to be doing

some applications right now.

>>> Yeah, so you know we have a fair amount of wheat

in the ground already.

Those areas that have good rainfall

have a pretty decent stand.

Hopefully this last rain really helped out

depending on where and how it fell.

A lot of people have already got their nitrogen out there

on their wheat.

It's been a good things,

so the later applied nitrogen,

we're doing good shape,

most of it has gotten into the ground

and been activated with these rains.

Wheat crop's doing well.

Some of our other planted wheat

we've had a fair amount of rain

on some of the really early applied and early planted.

We're gonna have to keep an eye on that

as we maintain some good warm temperatures

and get some good wheat growth.

Those areas that had a lot of rain

after fertilizer went down,

we need to keep an eye on 'em,

'cause we could be running out of nitrogen

as we produce more and more wheat.

This is also the right time

'cause we're wrapping up wheat planting across the board.

This is a really good time to be saying,

okay, I'm wrapping up wheat planting,

let's get out my N-Rich strips.

Regardless of what you're doing,

whether you go with a heavy or a high rate

of pre-plant or a low,

let's get some N-Rich strips out there

just that rate of 40 to 60 pounds in a strip.

It could be an ATV or a push spreader,

it really helps you throughout the season.

>>> You have students back here

actually measuring out for the plots in here at Perkins,

but if a producer wants to do an N-Rich strip

on their land, it can be any amount, just real basic.

>>> Yeah, when we do research,

so we weigh down to the gram.

So we apply plots at a 10 by 20 foot plot,

and we weigh down to the gram of material,

make sure it falls in that.

When we go with an N-Rich strip on farm,

we have a big range of end rates that I'm okay with.

I want at least 40 pounds of that N-Rich strip,

but it can be up to 70.

We just need something out there

that's more than what's already on the field.

>>> And then as we move into first hollow stem

later in the season,

that's also an opportunity to topdress

with some nitrogen then, too.

>>> Yeah, as we watch and we progress through the season,

we watch how the growth is,

we wanna be talking about topdressing

when the weather is right.

We've had enough research that shows

we don't have to get in a rush to topdress

but we need to apply when the weather's conducive,

so that could be cooler temperatures and no till,

where we can make sure we have good incorporation

with rainfall and it doesn't get hot,

or as we progress out, as we get closer to hollow stem,

we've got enough research that shows

that the closer to hollow stem we're able to apply

our nitrogen, the more likely that goes to increase

grain yield and protein,

and then we can keep an eye on those N-Rich strips

all year long, and if we start seeing them show up

later in the season, that's indicative,

you know if I wanna go for protein,

I need to be giving it an extra shot right now.

>>> Now back to the N-Rich strip,

if a producer doesn't really know how to do it,

they can consult a county office

and then have them help.

>>> Yeah, go into each of the county offices.

Many of them already have the push spreaders

that we've sent out there

that you just put a bag of fertilizer in,

open it up and walk.

We also have lots of fact sheets,

we have videos, SUNUP videos and other videos

that we've done to help out in the process

of establishment and watching an N-Rich strip

throughout the season.

>>> Okay, thank you very much Brian Arnell,

and for more information on that,

go to our website,

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Mesonet Weather

>>> Welcome to the weekly Mesonet weather report.

I'm Wes Lee.

This week was a transitional week

for Oklahoma weather as we move

from near perfect fall temperatures

to cold, wintertime conditions.

Changing weather can be a shock to people,

but even more challenging to livestock.

Thursday's predicted cattle comfort index

showed cold caution conditions

for the northwest two thirds of the state.

This is on top of the fact

that cattle will likely be experiencing a wet hair coat,

and are not yet fully acclimated to cold weather conditions.

For the month of October, up through the 23rd,

daily high temperatures had been running

right around normal.

This chart shows the long term average high temperatures

in blue and the actual October temperatures

with the dark line.

It might be awhile before we see

average high temperatures again.

The National Weather Service forecast

for the last week of October shows a very strong probability

of cooler than normal air temperatures.

The dark blues indicate an 80 to 100 percent chance.

Their predictions for the first week of November

are also very similar,

showing a 60 to 70 percent chance

of lower than normal temperatures.

They have also issued a U.S. Winter Hazards Outlook

for this time period, for temperatures expected

to be much lower than normal for this time of year.

Gary is up next with a warmer longer term winter outlook.

>>> Thanks Wes, and good morning everyone.

Let's get straight to that new drought monitor map.

See if we have any changes.

We don't have too many changes,

we do have an increase in the abnormal dry conditions

across much of the southwestern quarter

to one third of the state.

We have just a little bit of severe drought

extending from Kansas down to Oklahoma.

This is an area we're definitely gonna have to watch.

Let's take a look out to the winter months,

see increased odds of above normal temperatures

across the entire state.

When we look at precipitation,

increased odds of above normal precipitation

across the northern area of the United States,

and then in our area, just the far southeastern corner

we see increased odds of below normal precipitation.

That's it for this time.

We'll see you next time on Mesonet Weather report.

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Supplementing Wheat Forage with Silage

>>> Well, drought's creeping into the state,

and Paul, last time we talked to you,

things were looking pretty good

for grazing cow long wheats.

So where are we at now?

>>> So a couple of months ago

whenever I last visited with y'all,

we had the potential for an outstanding fall forage

production year for wheat pasture.

We had a lot of moisture through August,

and right there at planting we had really good conditions.

What I found in the past is if you don't have rain

after establishment, we can have a lot of more rain

later in the season and won't make up for that deficit.

We really need moisture in September

to really get a jumpstart on fall wheat forage production,

and this year, it was kinda slow comin'.

We're gettin' some moisture now

in certain parts of the state,

but we're still kinda behind on our fall forage production.

>>> So for producers who are really counting

on that wheat pasture to come up to graze their cattle on,

what are some supplementation methods that they can use,

or things that they can put out in the field

to kind of get them by

until that stand becomes more established?

>>> In the 1980's, Gerald Horne and Gary Vogl

did research where they were feeding silage

every day to cattle in wheat pasture,

and they used wheat silage, or sorghum silage,

or corn silage,

and they were able to decrease the amount of wheat forage

consumption by about two thirds of a pound

for every pound of silage they fed.

So they were able to essentially double the stocking rate

of cattle on wheat pasture

without decreasing the animal performance on those cattle.

So a few years ago,

I got into a situation where we were short on wheat pasture,

and I looked at that old research,

and we decided to use some round bale silage

made out of Bermuda grass,

and we were able to feed that once a week

every other week as those bales needed to be replaced

and we were able to essentially double the stocking rate

on those cattle, or stock normally

with about half the amount of forage.

>>> So when we're talking about silage,

is there a specific type that's better

than the other, especially,

and it might be even dependent on where you're at

in the state, what works better for southern Oklahoma

might work better in northern Oklahoma.

>>> Well, what we found with that Bermuda grass silage,

it was about 14 percent crude protein

and mid 50s in TDN,

so it was a fair quality forage product,

but that was real similar to the type of silage

that they were able to feed in the 80's

in that research then.

Mid 50s in TDN, but lower in protein,

so we think if it's a palatable forage product,

cattle will consume it,

and it will offset that decrease in forage availability

on wheat pasture.

>>> So when's the breaking point for that?

When you're using silage to supplement cattle

as wheat's still trying to come up

and waiting on more moisture,

when is it just time to maybe think

of some other forage options?

>>> My rule of thumb, if we want

to maximize animal performance is we want five pounds

of forage dry matter at turnout per pound

of animal body weight.

So that's about 250 pounds of weed forage dry matter

for a 500 pound steer.

And our normal stalking rate of two acres per steer,

that's about 1,250 pounds of forage per acre.

That's about six to eight inches of forage height

at that time.

So for a normal turnout time of early November,

we're gonna be way behind that for this field for instance.

And if we're much below that three,

two to three pounds of forage

dry matter per pound of animal body weight,

we really need to provide some sort of supplement,

whether it's supplemental silage

or a high quality hay to offset that deficit.

>>> [Host] All right, thanks Paul.

If you'd like some more information about silage

and other supplementation options,

go to our website,

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Cow-Calf Corner

>>> We've discussed before on the Cow-Calf Corner

the importance of body condition of these cows

at calving time as it impacts

the upcoming breeding season.

But we must remember,

that any change in body condition between the calving season

and the start of the breeding season,

also can impact re-breeding performance.

Research done here at Oklahoma State University

a number of years ago,

looked at what happened if we have a set of cows,

that are in good body condition at calving,

5.5 on our 1-9 scale,

but half of them are allowed to lose

a full body condition score down to about 4.5

by the time the breeding season begins.

Those cows that lost the body condition

had a re-breeding percentage of only 73%.

Compared to their counterparts that were fed

to maintain body condition,

5.5. all the way into the start of the breeding season,

those cows re-bred at a very nice 94% rate.

And, if you of course do the math,

there's 21% difference

in re-breeding performance depending upon

how these cows perform between the calving season

and the start of the breeding season.

I think it's very, very important during these

fall time frame

that our fall calving cows

we try to maintain the body condition

that was put on them during a course of the summer.

And the good body condition they had at calving,

try to maintain as much of that as possible

going into this upcoming breeding season.

And that's where a good supplementation program

comes in handy.

It probably means that we need to add some protein

as a supplement for the cows that are still grazing out here

on good standing forage.

Or if we're in a situation where standing forage

has been cut down or is a little shorter than we'd like

and we have to put out some hay,

still, a high protein supplement

fed to these lactating cows

at a rate of usually about some place between three

and five pounds per head per day,

will do a great job of maintaining body condition

on those cows as they go into the breeding season.

I think that it's important, as we pointed out last week,

that you know the quality of the forage

that these cows are consuming,

therefore you can match the supplement

and the supplement amount up to their needs.

But keeping body condition on these cows

from the time that they calve here in September

and October, until they start and go

into the breeding season

around the first of December

will really help to

result in a good, re-breeding performance

for those cows this year.

Hey, we look forward to visiting with you again next week

on sunup's Cow-Calve Corner.


The New Farm Bill Decision

>>> We're joined now by Eric Devuyst,

star extension ag-economist,

and Eric I understand you and the team are

working on a new decision tool calculator

for those trying to figure out the farm bill.

>>> That's right, so,

in the last farm bill we had all these radical changes

to the programs.

And, lots of new calculations,

lots of new information.

There was a lot of decisions to be made.

So the last farm bill, we built a tool where we will

document, we have 38,000 users, nationwide.

Almost 13 billion dollars of revenue protected

using our tool.

And that was funded by

the Southern Risk Management Education Center,

part of USDA.

And we cooperated with the economist

at Kansas State University.

So, we got the team back together again this year.

The Kansas State folks are great partners for us

and, so, we're building that tool.

We're in the process of reconciling data sources

between the different USDA agencies

and expect to have a version available

for our county extension educators

and area specialists to be trained on

in a couple weeks.

>>> Okay, so that's kind of the timeframe for

extension folks to start engaging.

When do you think you'll be able to roll it out

more widely for producers to start accessing

and start running the numbers?

>>> Well, we're optimistic

that in mid-November, we're gonna have a version available

for the public to use.

And, so, we're hoping that'll be out,

and then we'll have updates available

as we get new data sources or errors are found.

But, hopefully mid-November.

>>> So, you mentioned what the tool did in the past.

Kind of refresh our memory of what people can expect

when they access this.

>>> Okay, so, the new farm build decisions

are very data intensive.

Fortunately, most of that is in the form of

data files from USDA.

So, we're in the process of parsing that data,

reconciling between different county names,

for example, between different files.

So, they'll need to have available

their FSA yields and base acres from the past,

Going back to 2013,

and then they can just type that into the program.

It's gonna take take 20, 30 minutes

and then they'll get results both in table and graph form.

So, it provides a lot of information they can do quick.

The program, this time, is set up to do

automatic sensitivity analysis, so they can enter,

"All right, if my yields are 10% higher, 10% lower,

price is 15% higher or lower."

It'll automatically update the numbers and give 'em

a wide range of results then.

>>> So, in the meantime, folks can be getting

their records organized. 

>>> Yeah, FSA has

all that information available for them.

They can get a form from FSA

with all of that information on it.

They'll have until March to sign up for 2019

and, by the way, the 2020 signup has started.

So, they'll be able to do those things.

There's no rush on 2020. There's no rush on 2019.

They've got time to get that done.

But, don't wait until the last week.

Your FSA office is gonna be swamped.

We'll have links up.

We'll come back on myself, or

Amy will be back on, one of the two of us.

We'll tell ya how producers can get to that

and then we'll put it on the signup page, of course.

>>> Okay, great! Thanks a lot, Eric.

We'll see you again soon.

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Market Monitor

>>> 80% of the Oklahoma wheat crop is in the ground

and Kim, what is on the plate for Oklahoma producers

as they move forward?

>>> Well, I think the first thing is what the prices are.

You can look at the current price,

somewhere between $3.90 and $4.

A harvest out in 2020, you can forward contracts

somewhere between $4.20 and $4.25.

Roll up to the legal low prices.

I think what they need to be concentrating on is

producing a high quality product to sell

as we get into June and July of 2020.

>>> What's really changed since harvest back in June?

>>> Well, if we go back in late June,

our prices were up around $4.40.

They peaked in Mid-July at $4.50.

In Mid-September they'd fallen down to $3.50, $3.60,

and now you've got 'em up at $3.95 to $3.40.

So, they've really been wallering around

from about $3.60 to $4.40, mostly in that $4 range.

>>> So, when you have a question like this,

you go straight to somebody with a PhD.

Kim, why are wheat prices so low?

>>> Well, if you look at what's going on with wheat prices.

One, I think it's the relatively poor quality

of the hard red winter wheat.

Now, it did average 11.4% protein.

You can compare that to 12.4 last year.

Overall average when the good year's around 12.5

is what you need in the export market.

But, I think the main reason

that our prices are at current levels,

that's where we have to be to compete in the export market.

What France has been selling, the soft red winter wheat,

coming out of the Black Seas,

to compete with them in those markets,

we gotta have prices, right now, at less than $4 a bushel.

>>> Why are we seeing that 90 cent difference

between hard and soft wheat?

>>> Well that's the big question that

a lot of people have been asking.

I think it's a market situation.

You look at ending stocks in 2011 to 13,

hard red winter wheat ending stocks averaged

about 300 million bushels,

stocks/use ratio 33%.

You look at the last four years, including 19,

we've averaged 524 million bushels of ending stock,

66% stocks/use ratio,

and for 19, we're projecting 491 million bushels

ending stocks, and 57%.

Now, soft red winter wheat,

which is normally at a discount to hard red winter wheat,

but this last week was at 99 and a half cents above it.

In 2015, '16, they had 2,010 million bushels

in these stocks, 67% stocks-to-use ratio.

This year 110 million bushels.

Significantly lower and a 38% stocks-to-use ratio.

So 57% hard wheat, 38% soft red winter wheat.

Which one is gonna have the highest price?

Supply and demand.

Soft red winter wheat is.

I think it's a market issue.

>>> Going back to the global market,

where are we with the world wheat crop

actually being harvested?

>>> Well, if you look, the northern hemisphere

is essentially done a little bit being done up in Canada

and some parts of the USSR.

3% or 4% left to do there.

In the southern hemisphere, you've got Argentina

and Australia importing crops.

Australia continues to lower their production

because of drought.

Dryer weather in Argentina.

The market hadn't got a good handle on it yet

but a couple of weeks ago,

we were talking about a record crop in Argentina.

Now, it's gonna be less than the record

and that is part of the reason we've seen

a 45 to 50 cent price increase over the last month or so.

>>> Is there any hope for higher prices here in Oklahoma?

>>> Oh, I think so.

And especially as we get out to that next crop,

if you look at the protein premiums

in Kansas City right now, ordinary wheat,

which is less than 11 to 12, 6 wheat.

You've got a 90 cent to a dollar premium there.

If you're looking at, say, 12-2 to 12-6,

you're looking at an 80 cent premium.

In other words, if we could have 12-5,

12-6 protein next harvest,

that protein premium is gonna be there because the protein

is not gonna come in the market between now and harvest.

And so, a way to get that higher price

is to have that protein.

You take 420 plus 80 cent protein,

you've got $5 wheat right there.

>>> So that's easy to say if you're looking at all the numbers

but there is also input costs that go into that.

What advice do you have for that Oklahoma wheat producer

that's riding the margins on that?

That wants that high protein but also knows

that there's gonna be inputs to also make that higher price?

>>> Well, what's coming out is researching OSU is timing

that nitrogen applications.

You don't have to put as much down.

You get a bigger bang for your buck

if you put it down at the right time.

You can lower costs, less nitrogen, and better quality.

>>> Okay, thank you very much, Doctor Kim Anderson,

grain marketing specialist here

at Oklahoma State University.

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Food Whys

>>> If you enjoy drinking tea,

you may be surprised to find out

that, depending upon the type,

the tea that you enjoy might not actually be tea at all.

Tea is the most consumed beverage in the world after water

and all true tea comes the leaves

of the plant Camellia Sinensis.

Other types of tea, such as herbal, are actually infusions.

Herbal teas can be made from herbs, spices, seeds,

flowers, fruit, or other plant material,

but they typically don't contain any tea leaves.

There are approximately six categories

of what are considered to be true teas.

These are white, yellow, green, oolong,

black and post-fermented, also known as dark.

The different categories are created

by exposing the tea leaves to different processing steps.

These include wilting.

In other words, after picking the leaves,

allowing them to wither and dry, and oxidizing.

In other words, after picking,

allowing the leaves to turn brown.

Post-fermented tea is basically green tea

that's been allowed to ferment

and age anywhere from 10 to 15 years.

The highest quality and most expensive post-fermented tea

may be aged up to 50 years.

Prior to the Ming dynasty in China,

tea was often pressed into forms such as bricks,

so that it could be easily transported and traded.

And even today, post-fermented tea

is still often pressed into bricks.

So whether it's a hot steaming mug of green tea

in the wintertime,

or an icy cold glass of herbal tea in the summer,

remember to sit back, take a sip and enjoy.

For more information,

please visit or

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>>> That'll do it for us this week.

Remember you can find us anytime at,

and also, follow us on YouTube and social media.

I'm Lyndall Stout.

Have a great week, everyone

and remember, Oklahoma agriculture starts at SUNUP

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