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December 1, 2018

Transcript to come.

This show includes the following segments: 

  • Nitrogen &  wheat needs
  • Market Monitor
  • Mesonet Weather
  • Eastern red cedar burning tips
  • Cow-Calf Corner
  • Do different wheat varieties taste the same?
  • Vet Script


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>>> Hello everyone, and welcome to SUNUP.

I'm Lydall Stout.

As we turn the calendar to December,

we want to start today with an update

on Oklahoma's wheat crop.

Here's SUNUP's Dave Deken,

and our precision nutrient management specialist,

Brian Arnall.


Nitrogen &  wheat needs

>>> First week in December, and the wheat crop's

coming along across Oklahoma.

Brian, what have you seen with wheat across the state?

>>> We're at several stages.

You know, the early wheat that's up,

kind of like what we're standing right now,

it's doing really good.

Everything's just shutting down right now.

We've got cooler temperatures, night times are down,

so we don't have a lot of growing activity.

The last couple weeks we've had enough warmth, though,

we're seeing that later summer what starting to emerge,

so we're seeing some wheat starting to get up

that was planted during that cold when we finally got dry.

So we're kind of in the tail of two tails right now

where we've got some big wheat that's just sitting there

right there, and some wheat that's germinating.

But overall, the stands are coming out of the ground

and we've got wheat.

The wheat that's been up, you're seeing signs

of nitrogen deficiencies, you're seeing signs

of other things going on, and we're gonna have to

watch that as the season goes.

On our side slopes and our very sandy ground,

that wheat was in the ground early that had a lot

of nitrogen early, that ground's probably lost

a lot of the nitrate through leaching processes.

So the well-drained, and the side slopes,

and we're probably not getting that back.

We've got a lot of yellowing in lower-lying areas

where we may have held water for a while.

Now that's going to be more to denitrification

and lack of oxygen, and so it yellowed up,

but it probably responded, you saw some green

up as we dried out and got a few warm days.

So we've lost some nitrogen there

but it will come back.

>>> We've been fortunate with that rainfall,

and like you say, the wheat's starting to go into dormancy.

When should producers start to worry about

nutritional needs for the wheat?

Whenever the yellow becomes a little more serious.

When should people be concerned?

>>> So it depends on what your purpose is.

So if we're in a grazing system, or a grazing scenario,

dual-purpose, or graze-out, if we're starting

to see yellow we need to be looking at taking care of that

as soon as possible.

Give the nitrogen now.

So maybe if we have a warm-up and we start growing again,

and we have that spell, we have the nitrogen there.

If we're a grain-only, especially on the really smaller

what that's just now germinating,

we can wait.

We can wait through January or February,

just when the time's right, the weather's right.

But we need to be making our plans now.

Like I said, keep an eye open.

We need to be scouting our fields, seeing how we're doing,

how the plants are doing, getting out there,

keeping an eye out for disease or insects.

>>> There is that movement between dormancy and not

whenever it grows a little bit then it stops.

What's the conditions, what's the overall soil temperature,

air temperature need to be?

>>> So we're looking at, we get growth when our soil

temperatures are in the 40's or above,

and you can see it, we have a little bit of growth.

Even if we start off with a 25, 30 degree morning,

but if we get up into 70's.

And we'll see the plants grow because our soil temps

are still warm.

So, you know, even though we get cold at night,

we had a previously warm day, so our soil temps

are still warm, so we get some growth.

It's when we cycle that hot out.

We slow down, shut down when our nights

and our daytimes are below 40,

and that really slows down the cycle.

And the wheat can kind of come in and out of it,

and do a little bit of growth.

>>> And on top of that, we gotta talk about the N-Rich strip.

It's important this time of year.

>>> Yeah, and right now's a great time.

So it's not too late, because we've been in dormancy,

or we're not really growing rapidly.

So if you haven't put out the N-Rich strips,

go ahead and get them out now.

50 to 40 pounds of nitrogen.

You can use a push spreader, a ATV liquid,

whatever your applicator is, put it out there

to give us an idea of what's going on

and as we go into the spring,

as we go into top-dress timing.

>>> And that's still a couple months away,

but it's time to maybe start thinking about that.

>>> Yeah, if you got cattle out on wheat right now,

I'd go ahead and put it out right now

because we can use that as a guideline

for when we want to get on it early.

And if you're a grain-only, it's looking for that

top-dress timing.

>>> Now you also have an event coming up here really soon.

Let's talk about that.

>>> So it's the Winter Crop School.

It's December 11th and 12th.

It's on the OSU campus at the student union.

It's developed for CCA's and certified applicators,

commercial applicators, so offer 12 CCA credits,

and we offer four ODAF applicator credits

in this meeting.

It's an advanced meeting, but it's still open

to the public and everybody else.

We've got some great topics.

It's called Winter Crop School, but we're talking more

than just wheat.

So we do have a lot of wheat topics.

We'll have Dr. Lollato from K-State coming down.

Talking about their high yield contest in wheat.

We're going to be talking soil health,

soil conservation, and things like that.

And so, we have visitors coming in.

We'll have Dr. Nelson with OK State.

We'll have Dr. Warren coming in with OSU.

We're going to be talking cotton production.

We're gonna have soybean production

and everything's in there kind of

the high end for the CCA's.

The producers are welcome.

Registration's available online at

>>> Okay, thank you very much.

Brian Arnall, Extension Precision Management Specialist

here at Oklahoma State University.

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Market Monitor

>>> Kim Anderson, our crop marketing specialist

is here now and, Kim, Thanksgiving is behind us

and it seems the markets are in a little bit

of a holiday mode right now.

Talk about that.

>>> Well, that's normal happening for this time of year.

Producers and the buyers had just come off

a long holiday weekend.

They're looking and seeing what's going on around the world.

You know, the farmers don't need money right now.

Now, as we get on in to closer to Christmas,

some producers will want to generate

a little Christmas money,

and so they'll sell some product there.

Also, some buyers that have backed off sales

will come in and it's normally prices may decline

just a little bit during this period

and they'll look for some good buys there.

>>> There wasn't Thanksgiving though in Russia.

>>> Yes.

>>> And there's a blockade of Ukrainian export ports.

What's the situation there and how's that impacting prices?

>>> Yeah, Russia put in a blockade for Ukraine's ports.

You know, they've got other ports that

they're shipping most of the grain out of.

There is a little rally in wheat, maybe because of that,

but right now on the crop,

and the crop export, and crop prices,

probably little to no impact at all.

>>> What about Russia's 2019

crop and production news?

>>> Well, I got some news a couple weeks ago that

Russia's increasing their planted acres of all crops

for the '19 and I was concerned about wheat.

And this week from the Russians,

they released that for their projection for 2019 wheat

is exactly the same as their 2018 wheat production.

There's about 2.6 billion bushels.

Now, the thing to remember on that is,

is that once you put out an estimate like that

it's about 50/50.

50% of the time it's going to be greater than 2.6 billion,

50% of the time it's going to be less.

Let's just hope that it's on the lower side of that

and that'll help our prices in '19.

>>> Well, let's talk about our prices here at home.

What are you seeing?

>>> Right now, our prices are just wallering around.

The good news is, I think, wheat prices

broke their little downtrend that they've had

over the last month or so.

We got maybe less than a 10 cent price increase,

but we'll take any price increase we can get.

You look at corn, and you look at beans,

you look at sorghum, you look at cotton.

All of them we got just a little bit of a price increase,

and that probably goes back to your holidays with producers.

They weren't putting commodities on the market,

the market needed a little bit of product.

And so, they bid the price up just to

get some producers to turn loose of it.

>>> In terms of crop production in this state,

how did this year compare to 2017?

>>> Yeah, what got me to thinking about that

was I was talking to a producer on corn production

and profit and they were saying,

"Ain't corn prices are significantly lower?"

And he said, "Yes, but my yields are higher

and the increase in yields more than

offset the decrease in price."

And so, I got to looking at that, and you look at wheat.

Now, it's just the opposite.

We had 28 bushels per acre versus 34 last year.

Corn, for the State of Oklahoma,

corn 140 bushels an acre versus 126 last year.

Sorghum, 48 versus 57.

So, their sorghum yields down just a little bit,

but still relatively good.

Cotton at 716 pounds per acre versus 882 last year,

but remember last year, we just almost had a record there.

And Canola, 880 pounds versus

1370 last year,

so canola down.

>>> And then, what do you think

we'll see in terms of acreage use for 2019?

>>> I don't see a whole lotta change.

You know, they were talking about higher

wheat planted acres, and then we got the delays there.

However, I think the producers have had

a good coupla weeks to get into this crop.

So, I think there'll be some minor changes,

some tweaking here and there,

but I don't think we'll see the big changes

like we've seen in past years.

>>> Okay, Kim, lots of great information.

We'll see you again next week.

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Mesonet Weather 

>>> Hello.

Wes Lee with your weekly Mesonet weather report.

After a very wet August and September,

it is turned off dry in most of the state.

If we look at the number of days it has been

since we have received a quarter inch of rain,

it has been well over a month in most western counties.

There's been a lot of speculation lately

that a weak El Nino weather pattern would develop

for the winter months.

Most meteorologists now predict the odds of that happening

to be at 75 or 80% in December.

A typical assumption is that an El Nino pattern

brings Oklahoma a cooler and wetter winter.

Research shows that this is not always the case.

El Nino's can be divided into three categories:

Strong, moderate, and weak.

Strong El Nino's typically are those associated

with a cooler and wetter winter for Oklahoma.

However, in weak El Nino patterns,

these effects are not always seen.

Oklahoma experienced eight weak El Nino patterns

from 1951 to 2005.

In about two thirds of these events,

we experienced a below normal rainfall pattern

for the winter months.

That trend continued on with our last weak

El Nino year in 2014,

where it was much drier than normal.

Two week forecasts also back up this phenomena

with temperature and rainfall patterns

predicted to be below normal.

Now here's Gary, with more on the rainfall details.

>>> Thanks Wes, and good morning everyone.

Well, our times have plenty seem to have gone away lately,

and our old folk drought seems to be building in the state

once again, so let's get right to the latest

Drought Monitor map and see where we're at.

Northeast Oklahoma is still the trouble area,

and while we don't have a lot of drought

up there, we do see that yellow, abnormally

dry condition color painted all over

the Northeastern quarter.

Now, while that doesn't signify drought itself,

it does signify areas that are coming into drought.

So if we don't get a principle rainfall

in that area, definitely gonna see that

brown Moderate Drought start to intensify, spread,

and also possibly head to severe drought in some areas.

This will show you why we're starting to enter

a more troublesome period with our moisture.

So for the last 30 days we see once again,

area Northeast Oklahoma is the hardest hit area

with about an inch below normal to more than

two inches below normal.

But really, the entire state, safe for the far

southeastern corner of Oklahoma, remains in

deficit conditions over the last 30 days.

That's a far cry from where we were

during August, and September, and October.

And if we look back at 60 days,

we see some of that residual moisture

from that longer time period showing up in all of those

great surpluses over, once again,

all but the southeastern portion of the state,

and this time down into East Central Oklahoma,

and also into Central Oklahoma.

But again, those big surplus numbers

surround those areas.

Now we look at the really hard hit area

up in Northeast Oklahoma.

If we go all the way back to the beginning

of 2018, we see deficits in that region, from 10 inches

all the way up to about 16 inches.

And so that's the core area of that hardest hit

drought up in Northeast Oklahoma.

Now like I said, this is nothing

to be alarmed about just yet.

We do need rainfall over the entire state,

but especially up in Northeast Oklahoma,

so we'll keep an eye on that for ya

and get back to ya next week

with the latest Drought Monitor map.

That's it for this time,

we'll see ya again next week.


Eastern red cedar burning tips

>>> Usually when we come out here

to the Cross Timbers Experimental Range, it's with John.

And John, usually you're burning something,

you're doing research, or demonstrating some

type of burn plot.

But today, you guys are setting up

one of those demonstration plots.

>>> Yeah, so what we have here is an area

that we had under study for several years.

Actually, the study started in the early '80s.

We finished it up sometime in the mid 2000s.

So, this area was unburned

So the cedars just grew like they grow if,

if you don't burn 'em.

I mean that's what happens.

We got some really large cedars.

So we had some people come in,

we did some cedar work on it,

and we're just doing some different things

with the cedar cutting and stuff that we're doing

to try to demonstrate to folks, some of their options

that they can do whenever they hire people to cut cedars.

You know, there's probably three to five acres

in this area that was cleared.

It's covered with close to 20 foot cedar trees

and very thick, dense, covered canopy of it.

>>> So with this area, you're wanting to conduct

a little bit of research, but also show people

firsthand that yeah, you can clear it, and there

is life after cedar.

>>> That's exactly right.

And to show 'em, you know, give 'em some ideas

about what can do, what they can have do.

So one of the things we had 'em do when they

came in here to cut, we had 'em just cut

and we had 'em stuff.

So you see in the background, in these areas,

there's trees that we didn't cut.

>>> But they all have dead trees that we did cut,

pushed up underneath 'em.

So what that's gonna do is enhance our burn program,

so when we go to burn,

we can light off these dead trees.

They're gonna catch on fire, carry up into the bigger trees

and hopefully knock a bunch of them back.

Piling you've got a big pile.

So you've got to get rid of that pile, a lot of times.

How do you get rid of the pile?

You burn it.

Well, when do you burn it?

People think, oh, we've talked about this before.

When's the best time to burn piles?

Well, the best time to burn piles is in May and June.

That's the best time.

It's not the winter time,

it's not when there's snow on the ground,

cause that snow doesn't typically last long

here in Oklahoma, and that kind of stuff.

But also, one thing to look at in these areas

like this one that are pretty dense cover,

there's not much fuel left.

So we've got a great opportunity coming this spring

that we could burn these piles where we have

hardly any fuel, it hasn't started recovering yet,

so we got a lot of bare ground,

there's not going to be a lot of probability

for fire creeping or escaping, getting out,

because you do have a lot of bare ground

because it was shaded out by this thick canopy.

So then the other problem you run into

with piles is when you burn them out,

lot of times you leave bare spots.

It kills, it sterilizes the soil for a period of time.

Sometimes for several years.

So that can be an issue if people wanted

with new-cut cedars, because if you cut 'em

and don't follow it up with fire,

you're pretty much wasting your time,

and you're wasting your money.

'Cause you're gonna be back in here within at least

six to 10 years redoing the same thing over again.

>>> One thing that we notice whenever we showed up out here

was where it was cleared there wasn't grass everywhere,

but there were small cedar trees there.

>>> Yeah, and if you go and look, and that's the one thing

that a lot of people always say, I cut this place

and then there was more cedars grew back.

Well, yeah.

So what has been happening?

Well those cedars, especially the females that produce

the seeds, they've been dropping their seeds

and so they've been there and they've been sprouting

so you got certain seeds, so you got lots of little bitty

trees that the cutter, he can't see those.

Plus, they can't cut 'em even if they could

'cause they're just so small.

So within a four-year period, these little trees

that are maybe just a half a foot tall,

they'll be four foot tall within four years.

But that's when you gotta follow it up with fire

and knock those seedlings back, and get 'em down,

and then you won't have that problem to do that.

And in that way, the investment that you made,

'cause this is an investment in your land

whenever you spend this much money to have cedars removed

and have them cut down, and let them get that way,

you need to make sure that investment lasts

for a long period of time and fire is what makes

that investment last.

>>> So cut now, burn in the spring, and then burn again

in the summer?

>>> That's right.

>>> Okay, thank you much, John Weir, Extension Fire Ecologist

here with Oklahoma State University.

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Cow-Calf Corner

>>> Cow-calf producers across the southwest

that have some bred replacement heifers

that they're going to calve out for the first time

as two-year olds next spring will want to remember

that I think the key to success

with those replacement heifers is to have them

in good body condition at calving time next spring.

Good body condition meaning that on a one-through-nine

body condition scoring scale we'll want them to at least

be about a mid-point five, and certainly a six

is probably more ideal for those two-year olds

at calving time.

The reason this is so important is illustrated by

the research that was done here at Oklahoma State

University a number of years ago

where basically they compared heifers that

were calved in good body condition,

like the heifer you see on the screen, six,

as compared to heifers that were calved in poor

body condition, like this heifer,

that we'd probably call either a three or a four

on our body condition scoring scale.

What you'll see if you look at this particular graphic

closely, those heifers that were in thin body condition

at calving time, even those that were fed

to greatly increase body condition after calving,

those heifers still only rebred at a 67% rate,

much lower than the heifers that were in good body

condition at calving time, and either maintained that

through the breeding season, or even had a chance

to gain a little bit more after calving

going into the breeding season.

Both those groups above 90%.

So I think the moral of the story is

we want to have these heifers in good body condition

at calving time.

In that body condition five or six range,

and if we can just maintain that throughout the rest

of the calving season into the breeding season,

we'll be pleased with the reproductive success

of those two-year olds next spring.

Keep that in mind as you go through this fall and winter

feeding season.

Put together a feeding program that allows these heifers

to maintain that good body condition

that they've got on them now, coming out of summer,

going into the fall so that they're in that body condition

score of a five or six at calving time next spring

and we'll get that rebreeding percentage that we want.

Hey, we look forward to visiting with you again next week

on Sunup's Cow-Calf Corner.


Do different wheat varieties taste the same

>>> Time now for a taste test.

So many wheat varieties are grown all around the world

and harvested to make all kinds of different food products.

With that in mind, a pair of OSU researchers

are raising the question, "Can people really

tell the difference in bread

made with two of Oklahoma's most popular wheat varieties?"

SUNUP videographer Ed Baron is in the mix

as they find the answer.

>>> When I came here, I didn't know much about wheat,

and I learned about these interesting competitions they have

where students will grow their own wheat, send the wheat in,

and then the university judges on it.

They look at the kernel size,

and then go to the trouble of baking 'em.

That's the same way we evaluate wheat for wheat varieties

being considered for release to the public.

But part of the evaluation never included taste.

That just raised the question,

"Could people really tell the difference?"

And so, we designed a research experiment to test that.

>>> We wanted all of the wheat varieties

treated exactly the same,

and so all of this is standardized.

Every sample was treated the exact same time,

proofed the exact same time,

so all the samples are treated so close to the same

that we're not influencing

how tall the loaf rises or the taste.

That's what we were shooting at.

Norwood and I talked about,

you think they'll be able to tell the difference?

And I was like, "Nah, I don't think so,"

but I was really surprised and I was really shocked,

and it really enlightened me.

>>> What we found is that for some varieties,

they couldn't tell the difference,

but for some varieties, they could.

There were two in particular, the Gallagher

and Ruby Lee varieties, people could tell the difference

between two varieties 68 to 75% of the time.

For some instances for some particular wheat varieties,

people can tell the difference between them.

We don't know if they like one more than the other,

we don't know how different they are.

All that we know is that often they can tell the difference.

>>> Used to, you know, if you were gonna make a cookie,

they said you have to use pastry flour,

or you have to use low protein,

that's the way you do it, but now, bakers are like,

"You don't have to do it that way."

If I use a high-protein flour, my cookie turns out crisper

or has a different mouth-fill,

so I see a lot of bakeries kind of bending the rules

and going nontraditional routes of flours that they use

to get different tastes and different textures.

>>> [Bailey] It just begs so many other questions.

Why do they taste different?

How do they taste different?

Do they taste so different that it matters?

Do people really like one more than another,

and you know, Oklahoma is a leader in wheat breeding.

We're very good at it.

OSU produces really good strains of wheat,

and so what this means is

that it opens up a lot of opportunities for us.

If we can differentiate a wheat

not just by its milling properties,

not just by its growing properties,

but in its flavor profiles, that just opens up

more opportunities for Oklahoma producers.

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Vet Script

>>> So winter has come to Oklahoma again this year.

Pretty much have had freezing temperatures

throughout this day,

and I thought this morning

we'd talk real briefly about our pets

and about some things that are important

to take care of in the winter.

Now obviously, you got a dog like Rusty or Todd,

got long hair, they can tolerate the cold

a little bit better than short-haired dogs.

Some of our short-haired dogs, sometimes we like to put

either some little sweater or something on them

to help them tolerate the cold a little bit.

Probably a good idea to make sure

you understand the health of your pet.

If you're unsure, you might wanna have your vet

give an examination because if you have

some type of illness, or some type of disease condition,

this will also affect how well

your pets can tolerate the cold.

We need to make sure we remember

to feed our pets well in the winter.

They do exert more energy trying to stay warm,

but we have to be careful.

We sure don't want them to get obese on us.

Really, one of the most important things you need to do

for you pets is make sure they have

a good, clean, fresh water supply.

We don't want that water to get too cold.

They're gonna be more likely to drink it

if it's tap water, not icy,

so you may have to frequently change your water.

One of the other things that's a concern for us

if we walk our pets on the streets or sidewalks

and we get snow and ice, we need to keep

a close look at those paws,

make sure we don't get any debris in there,

pieces of ice that can cause problems.

The other thing that concerns us if we're walking our dogs

and people are using a lot of chemicals

that we use to melt the snow and ice,

when we get through with that walk,

be sure and wipe those paws down

or even wipe the underside of the smaller dogs

to make sure we get all those chemicals off.

One of the other concerns we have is

when we go out to start our cars in the morning,

cats love to curl up to a warm spot,

so they may crawl up into your engine

and curl up on that warm engine, so you might want

to bang on your hood or give a honk when you get in that car

before you start to hopefully get any cats

that may be in there, to give them a chance to get out.

And the last thing I'd like to talk about this morning

is make sure your dogs and cats have a warm place to stay.

If you're gonna leave 'em outside,

it needs to be a nice, insulated, dry spot

where they can stay warm.

I would not suggest leaving dogs or cats out

in freezing temperatures for long periods of time.

They need to come in and warm up, they're like you or me.

I don't wanna stay out there all day either,

so just remember to use some common sense

and take care of your pets this winter.

If you'd like a little bit more information

about how to care for your pets in the winter,

just go to


>>> Thanks so much for joining us this week.

Remember, you can find us anytime at,

and also follow us on YouTube and social media.

I'm Lyndall Stout.

Have a great week, everyone,

and remember Oklahoma agriculture starts at SUNUP.

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