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Transcript for November 18, 2017

Transcript to come.

This show includes the following segments:

  • Did you plant late? Can you still make a crop?
  • Mesonet Weather
  • Market Monitor
  • Cow-Calf Corner
  • Vet Scripts
  • What's cracking' with Oklahoma Pecans?
  • Naturally Speaking


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Did you plant late? Can you still make a crop?

>>> Hello everyone and welcome to SUNUP.

I'm Lyndall Stout.

Most on Oklahoma wheat crop is already sown

But some grain only producer are still in the field

We caught up with our Extension small grain specialist David Marburger

For some late planting prospective

>>> Yep, so we're trying to get finished up.

We're not too far behind normal, just a little bit,

but for a lot of the grain-only wheat

that needed to go in the ground in October,

we were delayed by some of those rains that we had.

So waiting on for the ground to dry out

and then being able to plant,

then maybe getting another shot of rain,

and maybe forcing us to have to replant again,

so that's just delayed things a little bit.

And getting into November here,

it has dried out since kinda more mid-October here.

We could actually use a shot of rain,

but it has given us an opportunity

to get the wheat planted,

while one of the biggest management adjustments

we need to make when it comes to this late-planted wheat

is increasing our seeding rate.

In mid-October we can get maybe two to three tillers

produced before we go into winter dormancy.

As we delay planting, that window of opportunity

for tiller development closes by the day.

So in mid-November here, we may get one tiller to develop,

potentially two if it happens to stay warm.

So we can adjust for that, compensate for that,

by increasing the number of seeds that we put out there,

and by mid-November and later here,

we might have to up our seeding rate by almost 100%,

so instead of, for example, 60 pound seeding rate,

we might be having to put out 120 pounds

to compensate for that, lest its tiller development.

>>> There's some other compensation too

in some other management areas.

Start with nutrient management

and some things to think about

if you're just now getting started.

>>> Yep, so little plants going into winter

need all the help they get when it comes to fertility.

One option might be if someone doesn't typically do this

is putting a little bit of starter fertilizer

in-furrow, a little bit of DAP,

for example, 50 pounds per acre of DAP

in-furrow with the seed gives

that little seedling with the little roots

an opportunity to intercept some phosphorous right away.

>>> What about pest control and weed management?

Are there any special concerns

with these later planted seeds?

>>> Well, like anything with late-planting wheat,

the plants are small, we might have some weeds

that are germinating along with them as well,

and those weeds are gonna be taking up water

and nutrients that you're hoping

that the wheat's gonna be taking up,

so trying to control those weeds early on

instead of waiting will help give

a leg up to the wheat plant.

And any pests that you may have out there,

they're reaching thresholds,

making sure we're getting on top of that

and getting those controlled early.

>>> Now, let's kind of switch gears

for those producers who planted earlier in the season

and are thinking about putting their livestock on wheat,

what kind of advice do you have for them?

What's kind of that benchmark?

And you have some sample plants

to talk about.

>>> Yeah, I have some here.

Yeah, it's already to think it's mid-November,

and for those who plant into good soil moisture,

maybe end of August, early September,

and got it well established,

now's about the time to be getting ready

to think about, put those cattle out.

So what do we need to look for

when it comes to turning cattle out?

We like to see good top growth overall.

Hopefully about six to eight inches of top growth,

something that the cattle can get

their tongues wrapped around

and be able to have a good amount

of forage to be able to eat.

But we also need to pay attention

what's going on below the soil surface,

and we need those crown roots to establish.

Our secondary root system here,

the one that's gonna intercept the most water and nutrients,

as well as anchor those plants into the ground.

And you can kinda compare that to a younger plant here.

One, obviously not a whole lot to eat here

when it comes to forage,

but we don't have that crown root system

that has begun to develop yet,

so if something came along and tried to eat this,

it can pull this plant out.

You actually see where the seed is still here

and the primary root system that develops

out of the seed first.

And then that secondary root system I mentioned,

those crown roots, will actually begin

to develop right here.

And you can see actually one that's beginning to develop,

so it's still got a long ways to go

before this one could be grazed,

but if we have plants that are more this caliber,

we're about ready to turn those cattle out

and have 'em start grazing.

>>> Okay, we'll keep our fingers crossed.

David, always good to see you.

Thank you. We'll see you again soon.


Mesonet Weather

>>> We had a slight chance for rain

on Tuesday and Wednesday of this week.

That slight chance proved to be little to

no chance of rain

for most of us.

Even if we go back to the first of November,

our Mesonet rainfall map has only blue low rainfall colors.

Only two locations had more than a half inch of rain.

Jay in the northeast with 54 hundreds inches of rain,

and Broken Bow with 58 hundreds.

Most of the rain amounts over the first 14 days

of November were below a quarter of an inch.

This was born out on a map that shows the number

of days since a rain of at least a quarter inch fell.

Locations in the red area had gone close to 40

days without a rain of at least a quarter inch.

The tan areas were at 23 to 24 days and counting.

For the four Mesonet sites in the green map area,

it was six days and counting.

Going back 30 days we start to get some green map colors

showing areas with over one inch of rainfall.

The wettest locations were Medicine Park

and McAlester that collected more than three inches of rain.

Our low rainfall shows up as lots of bright colors

on a percent of normal rainfall map for the

30 days from October 16th to November 14th.

The red in the panhandle in western Oklahoma are

areas with less than 20 percent of normal rainfall.

Bright oranges less than 40 percent of normal rainfall.

The light orange is less than 60 percent of normal rainfall.

No place in Oklahoma has received their normal rainfall

since mid October.

The lack of rainfall plays out in our soil moisture

on a map of the percent of plant available water

from the surface down to 16 inches.

There were only four places at 100 percent.

Elrino, Red Rock, Inola, and Talihina.

Three locations were under 30 percent of

plant available water.

Cherokee at seven percent, Tishomingo at 17 percent,

and Idabel at 28 percent.

These three locations show up as the brown, dry,

low fractional water index values at 10 inches.

The good news were all the one values on this map.

More dry areas pop up when we drill down to the

24 inch soil depth.

At 24 inches deep, the brown, dry,

low fractional water index value areas

stretch out in three large spots.

That brings us to the US drought monitor map.

While Gary is out this week, he made sure we had the

latest drought map.

Drought has expanded with more tan D1 drought areas

in the northwest, southeast, and eastern Oklahoma.

Brown D2 drought areas were added in McCurtain

and Le Flore counties, as drought has intensified

in these areas.

And just across the border in Arkansas, an area

of red D3 drought level has popped up.

Let's hope that level of drought stays out of Oklahoma.

Some rain soon, please.

From Gary, myself, and all the Mesonet team, we wish

you and your family a great Thanksgiving holiday.


Market Monitor

>>> Wheat prices are slightly lower this week.

Kim, give us an idea of what's going on with the markets.

>>> Well you know, one day this week the price

dropped about 10 cents and that always gets our attention.

Especially in a market where you don't have much volatility.

Right now the market's

just wallering around in about oh, a 20 to 30

cent sideways pattern.

What we've got going on is the former civil union

countries in the northern hemisphere have

finished the wheat harvest.

We know how much wheat we got there.

We've got the harvest going on in Argentina and Australia.

And so we've still got, you know, Argentina's

hard red winter wheat, Australia's hard white winter wheat

coming on the market.

As long as you got new wheat coming on the market,

it's gonna pressure prices just a little bit.

>>> Now a question.

When the KC contract moves from December to March,

what do you think will happen to the basis

in the cash price?

>>> Well the basis is gonna go down, probably about 17 cents.

And the reason we know it will go down 17 cents

is because the March contract is 17 cents higher

than the December contract.

And remember that your cash prices equal the

future price minus the basis.

Or plus the basis, whichever way you wanna put that sign.

To keep the cash price say at three dollars and 30 cents,

if the futures price you roll to the next contract

is 17 cents higher, you gotta lower the basis 17 cents.

So when that basis changes in the

next couple weeks don't worry about it at all.

>>> Then what's the wheat price outlook?

>>> Well if you look at the outlook,

we've been watering sideways,

I see no reason to you know get a big price increase.

You look at that March contract,

it's been trading between about

$4.30 and $4.50 or it can get down to $4.20,

but that 20 cent range we're near that $4.30 level

so we could pick up 15 or 20 cents.

On the other hand if it breaks that $4.30

then we could down 20 or 25 cents.

So what's it gonna do, I'd say given to current price

it's gonna be plus or minus about 20 cents.

>>> Given the situation some producers

are switching to other crops.

In your opinion is this a wise decision?

>>> For the most part it is.

I think the producers gotta take into consideration

what's their soil, what will their soil produce.

They've gotta look at their management expertise.

They've gotta look at their, equipment compliment.

Do they, will what they have work

or do they have to make other investments

or go to custom harvesting?

I think they've gotta put a good pencil to it,

but for the most part I think it's a wise decision.

>>> Pencil to the paper right?

>>> That's right.

>>> Okay Kim, thanks a lot. We'll see you next week.

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Cow-Calf Corner

>>> One of the key questions that every

commercial cow-calf operation

has to answer at weening time each year,

is how many replacement heifers do we need to keep

in order to make sure that our herd

size stays at whatever we think is the appropriate number

for our particular situation.

Well, one of the ways that we can start to answer

that question is by looking at some data

that comes from the Dickinson Research Station

up in North Dakota.

You see what they did was keep track over 20 years time,

the number of cows that calved each year in each age group.

And if you look at this particular graphic,

you'll see that the largest group as you would expect,

are the two year olds, the ones having their first calf.

And this tells us that 17% of that herd,

over a long period of time,

were the ones having their first babies.

So that gives us a starting place as to

how many heifers we need to keep back.

If we're thinking that we've got a 100 cow herd

and I've got have about 17 of them

having their first calf the following year,

then we need to keep certainly 17 or more

replacement heifers to go into the

breeding season next spring.

Expect, oh, certainly somewhere around 10%

of any well-groomed set of heifers

to not conceive during that first breeding season.

Or in other words, a 90% conception rate is pretty typical.

In situations again, where they're well-grown.

So that tell me that we'd have to keep at least

about 20 replacement heifers going into a

good growing program to make sure

that we had an adequate number

to go into the herd the following year.

Now, we're into that discussion that is

one of the most controversial as far as

management in the beef industry.

And that's how rapidly, how much growth

should we put on replacement heifers

between weening and their first breeding season.

Some would recommend that we keep

a lot more heifers and grow them at a slower rate,

perhaps at less feed expense per heifer, by doing that.

And that would mean then instead

of keeping back 20 heifers,

for that 100 cow herd we have to keep

virtually all of our heifers or some place

to maybe 40 of them that we're

growing at a slower rate as they

go into that breeding season next spring.

Because a lower percentage of those

that grow at a slower rate are going to

be cycling at the start of the breeding season,

and therefore a lower percentage

are going to be bred in a shortened breeding season

of say 30 to 45 days.

So, depending upon our growing program,

that we're planning to use this fall or winter

is going to make a big part of the decision

of how many of these replacement

heifers we're going to keep.

If you're going to grow them at a rate of, say

about two to two and a half pounds per head per day

between now and the breeding season,

then I think we can use that smaller number,

because we'll have a higher percentage of them cycling

and a higher percentage of them should get bred

in that first breeding season.

If we grow them at a rate of a half to a pound a day

between now and that breeding season next spring,

we'd better keep back thirty or forty heifers,

in order to meet that requirement of getting 17 of them bred

and will go into the cow herd the following year.

We hope this gives you a little better idea

of how you go about making that decision

of how many heifers that you're gonna keep this fall,

going into the winter, so that you have

the right amount calf the following year

to maintain cow heard size in your situation.

Hey, we look forward to visiting with you again

next week on SUNUP's Cow-Calf Corner.

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Vet Scripts

>>> Several activities that people do expose them to germs.

And what people may not be aware of that

animals can be a source of those organisms.

Everyday activities that we do,

such as going to fairs, petting zoos,

or just going out in our backyard

will expose us to those organisms.

If we look at the CDC, around the world about 60%

of all diseases in humans are

associated with animal pathogens.

And we also know that about 75% of all

emerging diseases are associated with animal pathogens.

If we look at some of the diseases

that we've had problems with this year,

we know that well over 900 people

have been infected with salmonella

that has been associated with backyard poultry.

We know that up in the northern part of the United States,

there have been some influenza cases

that have been associated with swine exhibition at fares.

Now, ways that we can get infected with these organisms

is actually having that direct contact with the animal,

we either touch some type of body fluid,

such as saliva, urine, fecal material,

or blood, which can infect us.

But we can also have indirect contact.

That means that we just are in a vicinity

where the animals are, maybe we touch a food bowl,

or water trough, or maybe we're in

a stock trailer where the organism could be.

These pathogens can also be transferred by vectors,

such as insects, I think most of us are very familiar

with West Nile Virus being transmitted by mosquitoes,

and the other common way that we

get these organisms is foodborne.

That means we either don't cook the food properly,

or we contaminate the food in the process of cooking it.

Now, there are certain individuals that need to be

more careful than others when they're around animals.

Very young children, under the age of 5 whose immune systems

are not quite yet well developed need to be careful.

The elderly need to be careful because their immune systems

don't work as well as they once do.

All these people need to be especially

careful when they're around animals.

If you'd like more information about zoonotic diseases

if you go to

we'll put some information in there for you.

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What's cracking' with Oklahoma Pecans?

>>> Talking pecans know

Oklahoma harvest is full swing

And we had the opportunity to tag along and see how this years crop is veering

At Skiatook Osage county

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>>> We're here at my home ranch

that someone farms in Skiatook, Oklahoma,

and we are second day of harvest.

Right here we have about 320 acres,

this year the crop on it's,

Pawnee's had actually a good crop this year,

I think the crop as far as Oklahoma's had

in the last 5 years has been down as what it normally has.

There was halfway decent crop probably about four years ago.

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You know back up here in part of this north-eastern

part of the state we got hit by the ice storm in 2007.

We actually haven't really bounced back from that yet,

we're still getting there.

There are some orchards have finally come looking

to making what it used to normally make,

what it used to average.

Some of the orchards have even made more,

some of them haven't even come close to it.

And since then we've actually had a pretty short crop,

last year especially and the year before.

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>>> We're seeing a little bit of problems with some vivipary,

which is pecans sprouting in the shell.

It's something a little unusual

that I don't usually see in Oklahoma,

we see it lot more in the south east,

sometimes we see it in wheat,

especially on times where it's

pretty late rains close to harvesting.

Can have a little problem with that,

that may be something that producers

may be seeing this season and

that can knock down your crop a little bit.

(tractor engine)

>>> This year USDA is predicting about twenty million pounds,

which is probably what I say what we would normally average

for Oklahoma is about that twenty million mark.

Earlier on they were predicting, there were some predictions

up above thirty five million, I don't see

us even getting close to that this year.

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>>> With the weather being warm towards the end of the season,

towards harvest and these late rains,

I think that's got our harvest down a little bit.

Pecans just haven't, trees haven't started shutting down,

with it being so warm they just kept pumping energy,

when they really should've been

finishing off the pecans themselves.

You're really looking for a lot of

kernel fill during that time.

And if you don't have those rains then,

it's not producing enough energy to really

be filling that kernel, so you may have a

very large size pecan, but the kernel's not being filled.

So that can lead to some wafery-pecans

some light pecans, and that's really not

not good for the crop.

>>> In the next few years, Oklahoma's crop's

gonna get bigger.

Everybody, a lot of growers are planting trees

all over the place.

You know, nurseries are just selling out every

year it seems like.

And I see Oklahoma's crop just getting bigger and bigger.

We passed that federal marketing order here about,

last year, this last season was the first season

we collected on it.

This is the most I've been excited about the,

about it in our industry.

Than I have been in a long time.

And mostly because of that marketing order and

I think it's gonna be able to help

increase our prices you know, at the table.


Naturally Speaking

>>> When people think of habitat management for

whitetail deer, they're often

thinking about food resources.

And they'll often neglect the cover needs of deer.

Cover is important for several different reasons.

They use it both to stay cool or warm in inclement weather.

But a big reason they use cover is just for security.

To stay hidden and to not feel pressured from

predation, especially from the human presence

that might be on the property.

So a lot of forested properties in the eastern

part of the state have a really open understory.

The canopy's closed, and there's really not a

developed shrub layer.

In these forests, cover can often be very limited.

And especially on smaller properties, this can

have big implications on how many deer actually

stay on your property.

So, if you're trying to keep more deer on the property,

like during hunting season, you need to really

think about cover and where it occurs across your property.

If you don't have it, you can easily create it.

First thing you need to do, is just to make

forested openings, like the one behind me.

We've went in to an area that was mostly eastern

red cedar and we just simply cut them all down.

Allowed sunlight to come into that area and we

got an abundant amount of tall grasses that actually

provide cover, particularly during the summer.

And around the edge, we've fallen a lot of trees

and we instead of piling those up and burning them,

we've left those treetops.

And those treetops actually serve as cover

for whitetail deer.

So you can use herbicide or mechanical means to

create these forested openings.

A simple way is just to take a chainsaw and cut

these trees off at three to four

foot height.

What we wanna do is called a hinge cut.

Now on this tree, I didn't do a hinge cut.

Just to illustrate the difference.

I actually took a notch out and then just cut the tree.

And of course it breaks cleanly like we typically

cut a tree.

And then this falls off.

So it does provide cover, but not as much as if we

cut the tree on a hinge.

So compare that last cut to this hinge cut.

Where I did not take a notch out of the front

side of the tree.

Where it's gonna fall.

I just cut through the tree until it pivoted over.

And so now the tree stays connected to this stem

and it's gonna stay off the ground and provide

a little bit more cover that deer can back into.

Especially with the cedar like this that has a lot

of limbs and needles which will stay on here

for a little while.

It provides really good thermal cover for whitetail deer,

and also helps them feel secure on the property.

Now, we can also do this to trees that actually

can provide not only cover but also food.

This is an American elm, also hinged.

And often times when there's some of this cambium

still left attached, this tree will stay alive

for maybe a couple of years.

And not only is it providing the cover now, but

the deer will actually browse on the leaves that

are now made available on this tree.

And the tree will continue to put leaves out

for some time, so it's also providing some

food resources for whitetail deer.

So, think about the cover resources you have

on your property.

And the different ways that you can use to

create additional cover resources.

Whether it be mechanical like hinge cutting,

or herbicide, and then you can follow up

with prescribed fire to help keep those areas

open and dense and shrubby longterm.

And I think these tips

will help you keep more deer on your property

and help those deer really feel secure.


That'll do it for us this week.

Remember you can find us

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I'm Lyndall Stout, have a

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