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Transcript for October 14, 2017

Transcript to come.

This show includes the following segments:

  • Fall Armyworms
  • Mesonet Weather
  • Market Monitor
  • Do you know what Phosphorus means to your soil?
  • Cow-Calf Corner
  • James Washington
  • Naturally Speaking and Agritourism

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>>> [Lyndall] Hello everyone

and welcome to SUNUP.

I'm Lyndall Stout.

It finally felt like fall

in Oklahoma this week,

which made us hit the

road to the pumpkin patch

and corn maze.

School children love taking

field trips to P Bar Farms,

a centennial farm near Hydro.

>>> [Loren] We have a flour

mill here on the farm

and when we ask kids

where flour comes from

the number one answer

we get is from flowers

and so it's a great opportunity

to be able to show them

and put hands on to that and

realize that the food comes

from a farm somewhere

here in Oklahoma.

>>> [Lyndall] We'll have more

from P Bar Farms a little

bit later in the show, but first

we're covering the

topic of fall armyworms.

Here's SUNUP's Dave

Deacon and our extension

entomologist Tom Royer.


Fall Armyworms

>>> [Dave] Even

though it's October

we're still seeing army

worms across Oklahoma

and Tom you're getting

reports of them out

in the wheat fields.

>>> [Tom] Yes

I particularly I wrote a

quick news article yesterday


and posted it up because

a consultant from

Wheeler Brothers

had gone out to a field and

looked at it and advised

the producer to treat because

he saw the threshold had

been reached and he was

finding evidence of the feeding

the window paning and everything

just like we always talk about.

He took a picture of that field,

took it back to his office

and started looking

at the computer

and he started circling

all the caterpillars

he didn't see when he was

out in the field looking

because they're so small

and they're hiding so well.

It went from three to fifteen

because they're just so tiny.

And the point is if you're

seeing evidence of injury and

you're seeing you

have even a threshold,

you're probably not seeing

everything that's out there.

And right now the

questions I'm getting

"Should I treat,

should I not treat?"

I think if you treat, we have

fairly inexpensive products

that can get good

control of them.

We have adequate moisture,

we have good foliage,

and right now

that's going to give

a producer options.

If they want to grow for

grain, if they want to use for

grazing and grain,

or they just want to

graze out, it gives

them more options then letting

the fall armyworms have

that crop and then having it

try to recover between now

and when it goes

into winter dormancy.

So from my standpoint it

just gives a producer options

and who knows what prices are

going to do in the future.

I guess you'd have to ask

Kim Anderson that, but it

at least gives them options.

>>> [Dave] Now we've had a

couple of cool nights, but the

armyworms are still going

to be around until when?

>>> [Tom] They are going

to be around until we get

a killing frost.

The nice thing is that

we're getting closer to that

time in terms of getting

rid of them, but also

it slows them down so we're

probably not going to see

the heavy flights that we've

typically been seeing up until

now they'll be slowing down

and they grow a little slower

and everything, so things

should be calming down a little

bit, but I do know that there

is a lot of wheat that's

just coming up out of the ground

and it has to be protected.

>>> [Dave] Talk just briefly

about some options whatever

it does come to

treating for those.

>>> [Tom] Well the

first is obviously

to get out and

look at that field

and catch them early.

When you start seeing that

window paning take a good count

The insecticides

that are registered

there is a slew of them really.

They work pretty well a lot

of them are fairly inexpensive

but the key is to catch them

when the fall armyworms are

small because they are a lot

more susceptible to insecticide

kiling them then they

are when they get bigger.

Plus they aren't going to take

as much of the foliage out of

the field too.

>>> [Dave] Okay thank you much

Tom and we'll put a link to

that report on our



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Market Monitor

>>> [Lyndall] The new supply and

demand report is out but before

we get to that let's talk

about where the markets were

before it was released Kim.

>>> [Kim] Well the markets

were mostly in the tank.

You look at corn let's look at

the Chicago December contract

it was down to $3.44.

That is it's been moving

trading between $3.44 and

about $3.60 $3.70

it's right on the bottom it's

right on the support level

before that market

report came out.

Soybeans were at $9.66,

they've got support

down around $9.50,

resistance up around $9.87.

So they're in about the

middle of their range

and you know, we've

seen slightly higher

soybean prices, where

wheat and corn's been

going down over the

last couple weeks.

The KC December Wheat

Contract $4.24, it's

just been working it's

way down, just really

grinding down slowly.

It's almost about ready

to hit that $4.20,

that's the contract low.

If we break $4.20 on

that wheat, uh, well,

we're already in

trouble, we're just

going to be in more trouble.

>>> The report of course

was released on Thursday,

what were the big take aways?

>>> Well, let's look

at ending stocks.

For wheat on the United States,

the market was expecting

946 million bushels, they

got 960, so you know,

it's higher than expected.

You look at the world

in these stocks,

they were expecting 9

billion, 660 million.

It came in at a record,

9 billion, 850 million.

Higher than last year, finally.

You know what, you go

back a couple months,

we were down at 9.2 billion

for world ending stocks.

Corn, the market was expecting

2 billion, 290 million bushels.

It came in a 2.34 billion,

slightly higher than expected.

If you look at

world ending stocks,

just about near expectations.

They were at 7.95 billion

bushels, it came in at 7.91.

Soybeans, the only good

news in the market.

The market was expecting

447 million for U.S.,

it came in at 430.

And the world, they

were expecting 3.54 and

they essentially got that.

>>> And what do you think

the market is, the reaction

is going to be as a result?

>>> Well soybeans will probably

keep moving up just a little.

I think that's the good

news in the market.

You might as well

start with that.

We'll have to see if

wheat breaks that $4.20,

there's just really

nothing out there for

higher wheat prices.

You know they raised

Russian wheat production to

over 3 billion bushels.

You know, you go back 3

years and they're below

2 billion bushels.

They're marketing, readily

marketing 12.5% protein,

hard wheat.

You look at corn,

high corn stocks,

near record corn production,

second highest ever.

We're not going to be

able to move any of this

wheat out for feed, so

it's not going to help.

It's going to hurt more

on the wheat prices.

Corn prices, not much

hope there, soybean,

that's the only place that

the market can move up.

>>> And speaking of grain prices

you're, you and the team

are going to talk about

that and a lot more

at the upcoming economic

conference next week.

Give us a little preview?

>>> Yes, that's correct,

Darrell Peel and myself and

Larry Sandos will be talking

about policy in the

Oklahoma Markets

and Oklahoma Agriculture.

Then we've got some national

renowned economists coming in.

I think the one thing that's

going to come out would be

interest rates, you know,

that's kind of a sleeper

over the last couple

years, but, I think

interest rates may

be ready to go up.

And that will definitely have

an impact on Agriculture.

>>> If you're interested, the

Rural Economic

Outlook Conference, is

always a great event.

It's Friday, October 20, at

the Conoco-Philips Alumni

Center on the OSU Campus.

To learn more or for

registration information

just go to


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Mesonet Weather

>>> It has been a week of

transitions, summer to fall,

and the removal of a

long time mesonet site.

Monday afternoon, at 4:20

pm, Oklahoma air temperatures

ranged from 40 degrees at

Boise City, in the panhandle,

to 94 degrees at Idabel

in the southeast.

That's a change of 54

degrees across the state.

This mesonet map shows the

sweeping away of summer

and the entry of fall.

Tuesday morning lows came

in at 30 degrees at Kenton

and Boise City, only 6 mesonet

sites made it to 50 or above.

Most locations were in the

mid 40's in central Oklahoma,

except El Reno with

it's low of 35 degrees.

Wednesday morning was cooler

across the central part

of the state with

many mesonet sites

in the 30's or low 40's.

Only one site, Eva at 30

degrees, had a morning low

below freezing.

El Reno was noticeably

cooler than surrounding sites

with a low of 33 degrees.

Wednesday morning the Ninnekah

mesonet site was retired.

It had been collecting

data since January 1, 1994.

If you were using Ninnekah,

switch over to the

Chickasha mesonet site.

The Chickasha site is

5 miles to the North.

Here's Gary with a look

at our drought impact from

our recent rainfall.

>>> Thanks Al, and good

morning everyone.

Well now, last week I

did promise you a much

better looking drought monitor

map and that's what we got.

It's not perfect and I'll

show you why in a moment.

But let's go right

now and take a look.

 So we did see a

large reduction in the

abnormally dry and

moderate drought

that was splashed across

much of northern Oklahoma,


northeastern Oklahoma.

Unfortunately, we

did have to increase

that D1 moderate drought.

That's the light tan area

down in southeastern Oklahoma

just a little bit,

but that's our stronghold

of drought right now.

The southeast and

up into northeastern

and east central Oklahoma.

If we look at the

10-day rainfall map,

and of course this was

from Wednesday back,

we do see a large

portion of the state

had received from

two to four inches,

and of course that area

up in north central

and northeast Oklahoma

saw a large amount

of rainfall, very

heavy rainfall,

from four to as much as

eight inches of rain.

And of course that will

wipe out drought in a hurry,

but we do see

those lighter blues

and lighter greens

across the southern

and southeastern

portion of the state,

and even some portions

of northwestern Oklahoma

where the help was not quite

as much as what was needed.

And that's where

we see the remnants

of the abnormally

dry conditions,

and also the moderate drought.

So we look at the departure

from normal rainfall map

from the Mesonet.

This is for the 30 days

from September 11th

through October 10th.

Again, we see where those areas,

that stronghold down in

southeastern Oklahoma

where the deficits are still

from three to four inches.

A little bit of deficit

up in north central

and northeastern Oklahoma.

Also across over there

in east central Oklahoma.

That's where that abnormally dry

and moderate drought do persist.

And we can go back even further

and see those areas more

pronounced, just a little bit.

So it is a battle

between the shorter term

30-day deficits and the

longer-term 60-day deficits.

But again, across

northern Oklahoma,

down into east

central and especially

southeastern Oklahoma.

So that is the area, down

in southeastern Oklahoma

where we see the

largest deficits,

and also the most amount

of moderate drought.

Now it does look like we're into

an extended period

of dry weather again,

but at least it's been

a little bit cooler.

So hopefully we won't see a

rapid enhancement of drought,

and get some rain

in here eventually

and start wiping out

drought like we did

across northern Oklahoma.

That's it for this time.

We'll see you next time on

the Mesonet Weather Report.

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Do you know what Phosphorus means to your soil?

>>> Now to another classroom

lesson with Brian Arnall.

This week he's teaching

us what phosphorus

does to fields.

>>> Of our macronutrients,

nitrogen, phosphorus,

and potassium, phosphorus

is typically our

second most deficient nutrient

in the state of Oklahoma.

As I talk about

managing phosphorus,

sometimes I get beyond

some of the basics

of what phosphorus does,

and why it's important

in the plant,

and how we manage it.

So I'm gonna spend

a little bit of time

talking about phosphorus.

Many would say that phosphorus

is the powerhouse of the plant.

If you wanna call

it a superhero,

it's that energy superhero.

The thing that provides energy

and allows the plant

to have energy.

Now we'll put

phosphorus in the soil

that is very available and

very soluble and very mobile,

but as soon as we get it

into that soil system,

we start having

forms of phosphate

like H2PO4 and HPO4

which are very

chemically reactive.

And so we always talk about

phosphorus being immobile.

It's not because it's binding

to the soil and can't move.

It's because if there's

any cation in the system,

so cation is a

positively-charged ion,

if there's any

cation in the system

like a calcium, magnesium,

iron, or aluminum,

we're going to find

phosphorus binding with those,

and creating compounds that

become more and more insoluble.

Now where it binds, whether it

binds to a calcium or an iron

is going to be based

upon the soil pH.

In a pH at seven or above,

it's going to focus on,

it's going to concentrate on

the calciums in the system

by binding with the calciums,

creating calcium phosphates.

In our acidic soils,

those soils that

fall below a six,

we're really going to be binding

with irons and aluminums,

creating iron phosphates

and aluminum phosphates.

What we apply in the

soil as a fertilizer

will turn into rock phosphate.

So that's why we say

phosphorus is most mobile

when we first apply it

because it's in a form

that has the least amount

of chemical bonds to

it, and it can move.

So we apply phosphorus

and it moves.

And then, for just a little

bit, that first string.

And then it starts binding

immediately with the calciums,

and irons and aluminums.

Becoming things

that are minerals

and no longer plant available.

Now if you wanna know

more about phosphorus,

you can join in and

watch some of the

soil fertility lectures.

Those links can be found


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Cow-Calf Corner

>>> In the fall of

the year of course

typically we wean the calves.

And that's a good time

to examine the cows

as they come through the chute.

To take a look to see which

ones we're going to cull

before we keep them throughout

the course of the winter.

It's obvious that we'll

cull a lot of open cows,

those that aren't pregnant,

because they're not going to

have a calf for us next year,

no use putting that winter feed

into those non-pregnant cows.

But another key issue

is age of the cows.

And some producers may have

some questions in their mind

about the influence of age on

the productivity of beef cows.

There was a huge data

set, came from Florida,

clear back in the 80's,

over a couple years' time.

In one year they had over

15,000 cows on this one

ranching operation,

the second year,

over 19,000 cows.

And they looked at

the age of the cows

and how that influenced their

reproductive capabilities.

What they found, and

I think it's important

for all of us to realize,

is that on the average

these cows maintained

reproductive good status

out to eight years of age.

After eight to 10 years of age,

there was a very

slight drop off.

After 10 years, then

the drop off became

more of a decline, more steep,

and finally when they

got to 12 years of age,

then those cows really did

have a dramatic difference.

A dramatic decrease in their

reproductive capabilities.

So I think this gives us

a little bit of a clue

as we're watching cows that go

through the chute this fall,

if we know the

age of those cows,

by the number we put on the ear

tag or just our own records,

we probably want to start

looking at these cows,

especially at about

10 years of age.

If there's something else

wrong with those cows,

in terms of bad feet,

bad eyes, bad teeth,

perhaps they're a little

low in body condition,

then we may wanna give

some serious consideration

to go ahead and culling

them this fall or winter.

Once we get to 12 years of age,

then certainly it's

an individual decision

on these cows,

but I would be very

very very cautious

about keeping cows that are

more than 12 years of age

through the course of the winter

because what we don't

want to end up with

is a cow that's very

thin next spring

and we have to go

ahead and cull her

after carrying her

through the winter.

And we've got a

cow that's lighter,

lower in body condition,

that brings a lot less per pound

and a lot less total dollars

than she would if we would

have culled her this fall.

So we hope this

data will help you

as you're looking

at cows this fall

as to which ones you're

going to cull or keep,

so that we have the

best set of cows

going through the winter

utilizing our

winter feed dollars.

And we go ahead and market those

that really need to be sent

to be marketed on time

for the best situation

for the cows and for the ranch.

Hey, we look forward to visiting

with you again next week

on SunUp's Cow-Calf Corner.

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James Washington

>>> As part of OSU's homecoming

celebration this weekend,

we caught up with the

Cowboy's star receiver

to learn about his future

plans in agriculture.

One of the best wide

receivers in college football,

and likely top NFL draft choice,

is country at heart.

From the small town of Stamford

Texas, north of Abilene.

>>> Oh I love it,

because it's not big,

it's not a bunch of city life,

which I understand some

people have that in them,

but not me.

>>> [Woman] We met with

James Washington after

practice this week to

talk not about football,

but about his connection

to agriculture.

>>> I enjoy going out to farms

and hunting and fishing

with guys and just getting to

be one with nature sometimes.

>>> [Woman] It's pretty

special, isn't it?

>>> It is. Enjoy every minute.

>>> [Woman] James' dad has always

worked on farms and ranches.

And just this week, they

talked about challenges

with the cotton crop.

>>> Well, here, recently,

with the big rain,

flooded a bunch of it, and

it's not really growin'.

It kinda look like it's

got root rot, or something.

But having to deal with that,

and so, he'll miss

this week's game,

but hopefully my mom

makes it, and my cousins.

>>> [Woman] In the mean time,

it's business, as

usual, on campus.

Ag business, that is.

When he's not playing ball,

James is a regular student.

Currently a senior

in the Agricultural

Economics Department,

at Oklahoma State.

Rodney Jones is his

academic advisor,

and professor of Ag finance.

>>> James is there,

very diligently.

That class meets at 8

o'clock in the morning,

on Mondays and Wednesdays.

Some students seem to

struggle to make it

to that class, once in a while.

James is not that

kind of a student.

James is there every Monday

and Wednesday morning.

>>> [Woman] James is on track

to graduate in the spring,

after deciding to return,

to play a fourth year

for the Cowboys.

(men yelling)

>>> [Jones] I think it says

a lot about his character,

and the importance

that he places

on the educational component

of his college experience.

>>> [Woman] James says,

OSU's reputation,

as a top agriculture

school, means a lot to him.

>>> Growing up, I wanted a farm

and ranch management degree,

and here they offer two,

with the Ag business,

and then, with the

minor in farm and ranch.

So, that played a big part in

my decision on coming here.

From freshman year, until now,

I enjoy every minute of it.

With the professors,

and the Ag Department...

They're all willing to

help as much as they can,

and I really enjoy 'em.

(crowd cheering)

>>> James wants to be

involved in agriculture.

He wants to be

a owner/manager of

a farm or ranch,

at some point in his career.

>>> [Woman] And no doubt,

Professor Jones will

cheer him on down.

(crowd cheering)

Just like he does now.

>>> You should see

me in the stands,

when we're there with

a group of people,

and James makes a good play.

That's my advisee! I

know that guy


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Naturally Speaking

>>> Well, it's finally fall,

and people are out hunting,

for whitetail deer.

And at least for land

owners and managers,

that are interested in

harvesting large antler deer.

A question that

always comes up is,

"Should I call inferior

antlered bucks,

to have larger antlered bucks?"

And in a free-ranging,

whitetail deer population...

That is, deer that

is not enclosed,

that can move about,

across the landscape.

The answer is, no. There

is no benefit to you,

to call what you think are

inferior antlered bucks.

Research has clearly shown,

that you can have no

influence on this,

at a landscape level.

And there's several

reasons why that is.

The first is that, often

we make mistakes in judging

what is inferior.

Deer often have an injury,

during that summer,

and they'll have an

antler deformity,

and that will make a hunter

think that the deer is inferior,

when in fact, it's

just an injury.

Also, a deer in drought years,

or when deer have

poor nutrition,

antler size can be much less

than what that deer's

genetic potential is.

Often, hunters wanna

call spike bucks,

but spikes are typically deer

that were just born late,

the previous year.

And they could have

tremendous generic potential,

for large antlers.

And finally, doe's

are contributing 50%

of the genetic material that

controls antler development.

And you cannot look at a doe,

and tell what kind of genetic

material she's passing on,

for antler development.

So, when you put

all this together,

what it means is, you really

cannot control genetics

in a free-ranging,

whitetail deer herd.

So, if you want to

conrtrol antler size,

there are two things

that you can influence

And that is, provide

a lot of nutrition,

throughout the

whole calendar year,

and then, also, delaying

harvesting of bucks,

until they're, at least,

four or five years old,

because most bucks will not

reach their antler potential

until somewhere between

five and seven years old.

So, focus on nutrition,

and age of the deer,

and don't worry

about the genetics,

in a free-ranging,

whitetail herd.

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>>> Finally, today, the fun and

fascination of the corn maze,

and it's contribution

to Oklahoma Ag Tourism.

>>> We're here, in Hydro,

Oklahoma, at P Bar Farms.

We share our farm with

thousands of people each year,

with Agritainment.

We a pumpkin patch, petting zoo,

(pig snorts)

laser tag, haunter maze,

all of those things,

and everybody's got a

difference favorite.

>>> We've been riding

the tractor ride,

and now, we're here

waiting for the other

people to get back,

so we can ride the train ride.

>>> Before doing this, we were

wheat, peanut, and cattle.

We started the

corn maze, in 2001.

Really didn't know...

I was hoping for 1000 people,

and we ended up having

somewhere close to

five to 6000, the first year.

By year three, it was

continuing to grow,

and my father in-law

and I just saw the need

that it was time to, kind of,

shut down the family farm, as

far as conventional farming,

and take new direction

into agritourism.

>>> Agritourism provides

farmers and ranchers,

primarily, another

source of income.

So, it's a way of

diversifying income,

but it, also, has a

a secondary benefit,

of providing education


again, for people who either

didn't grow up on farms,

or have lost that

farm connection.

And so, it's really just

an alternate strategy,

much like second crops

and the winter grazing,

and those kind of activities are

to the farmer.

>>> [Loren] I think any

farmer that has a passion

for sharing his farm,

would be excited

about this career.

I mean, just being able to,

to teach kids about where

our food comes from.

We're raising that again,

first generation of kids

that have no idea where

their food comes from.

It's a growing industry, it's

larger than most people think.

I mean, it consumes

everything from

wineries, to strawberry

patches, to blackberry patches,

Christmas tree farms, dairies,

that actually share

their dairies for...

So, it's huge, and

there's a great potential

to be about to educate,

again, these kids,

and share with them,

your farming experience.

>>> $75,000.


>>> That'll do it

for us, this week.

Remember, you can find us,

any time, on our website,

and also, follow us on

YouTube and social media.

I'm Lyndall Stout. Have a

great weekend, everyone,

and remember, Oklahoma

agriculture starts at Sunup.

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